RE: Not Another Voyeur
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In HIVE there is a platform where users automate the vote, so I estimate that 75% of the votes that the publications receive is automated, you can easily deduce that because those who comment are always the same and this does not exceed 10 users.
I wasn't talking about votes and, no it isn't the same ten users for me ;)
The majority of those who are on HIVE are there precisely because of the income generated by their posts or their comments/replies.
Likely, but for example, if you have a look at the people who comment on my posts, most don't do it for the vote, as it is insignificant to their lives, because of their life position and where they are from. They appreciate it though.
You argued the existence of BOTH on Twitter, but on HIVE there are many, and there are many who pay for both and their trailers to vote for them; the latter, I think, is a bad practice.
Point out who pays for votes, and I don't mind downvoting them. That is part of the usecase for downvotes :)
The majority of the content generated on Twitter, is actually bot generated. They haven't been able to filter it out well, but there is no incentive to either, since there is no earning there, it just creates mass.
THe centralized media should never be used for education or staying abreast of topics, because it is algorithmically driven to give the view that monetizes your account the most - that is the only metric that matters to the platform. "relevancy" is irrelevant, as long as it makes money.
And, my point about the engagement isn't to compare it to Twitter in the sense that Hive is better because of more comments, it was to point out that even with 2000 words, there was still more engagement and the depth of engagement is at the level that people are able to build their understanding. Twitter doesn't dive deep into anything at all - so what is actually learned?
I remembered a house from a year ago on Facebook. A young woman celebrated that she already had 7 million followers on Facebook and 7 million on YouTube, I replied with a question to which I am still waiting for an answer: I don't understand the statistics you handle, how is it possible that you have 10M followers on Facebook and not even 100K like your posts? And on YouTube, the same thing happens to you?
On the other hand, when I made the observation, there was another young girl on YouTube who did not exceed 1M, but had 980K likes, this I consider real statistics.
In the end I won, the young lady on Facebook blocked me.... I do the same on HIVE, I have noticed that by having a reputation number over 75, the trailers vote those posts for the curation share, but in no way guarantees that the 300 or more users who voted the post, have read at most the title of the post. The same goes for those who automate the voting…
On Hive, there is no additional benefit for voting on one piece of content over another within the first 24 hours. Also, the numbers of voters is irrelevant and in terms of reputation, that is dictated by the stake of voters, not the number of voters.
Very few of the public metrics on any of the platforms are relevant, because they are there for advertising purposes too. Their accuracy is highly questionable due to a number of reasons.
How do you know she didn't buy likes? There are services for that.
btw, the 50+ readers of the post I mentioned is the statistics of readers who looked at it through the peakd interface only. It doesn't calculate leo, hive blog, ecency etc. The view statistics on Hive are incredibly hard to calculate, because they aren't coming through a single interface. The votes are easy because no matter the interface, it is written to the chain.
Just so you have some background, I have a pretty good understanding of how these things work here, as well as how the community operates. I have been around for awhile and if you dig back for a few years, you will likely find posts that address a lot of your points.
I like that people are learning about Hive though :)
Social networks are plagued by young people; in Latin America, for example, numerous children are on them, how, why, simple, their profiles are not really real, the date of birth is modified so that the system calculates a certain age to be on these social networks – few profiles are supervised by an adult.
Seeing a 6-year-old with a tablet or a smartphone is common in Latin America. I have visited Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, Venezuela, Panama and Mexico, and this has been the common denominator. Here in Canada, they are more reserved and the legislation is very strict with children under 12 years old on social networks. You won't see a child with a tablet or smartphone under 12 in Canada, I hope it's the same in your country. It makes me sad to see that Latin America pretends to be first world, but in reality it's not…
Those of us who have matured, who have learned from these social networks, find in HIVE a more interesting and serious world. I have delved into your blog for more than five years, I come from the old chain, which you know very well. Twice I've been run over by downvoted trailers; In my five years at HIVE, this is the 2nd time I've gone back to 60 reputation. I participate in challenges, I like that and if you look at my wallet, I reinvest EVERYTHING in the platform. I'm a fan of a badge and like to position myself quietly. A couple of years ago I did it differently, I learned that despite the fact that some freedom is managed on the platform, users are susceptible to criticism, when they are not in line with their thoughts, they label you, silence you, put you on their blacklists. ... Today I am more subtle, I prefer to make virtual friends who are waiting for a comment, a publication that one posts to read, comment on and/or reply to it.