RE: The Trap of Dogma Lies in Wait for Us All...

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Lol i think that was me!

Nukes are utter bollocks...believing in them is the dogma...

But you are still choosing to focus on all the irrelevant crap and ignore the fact that none have ever been detonated...

They are every bit as fake as the corona hoax


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Nah. I am focusing on the relevant. That they had no way to fake those early videos at the level they exist. Today they still haven't achieved anything with computer generated ones that are as realistic as those if you zoom in on them.

Calling it fake when the evidence they presented could not be faked at the time to me seems like choosing a dogmatic path.

If you can show me a way that those videos could have been made that would not leave noticeable artifacts in the process then you might convince me. Until then simply saying they are fake doesn't cut it.

As to things like deep fakes today... I often tell people seeing is no longer believing. Why? Most things can be easily faked.

The Nuclear explosions could likely very convincingly be faked today if a lot of effort was put into it. Every example I've seen still has the artifacts if you know what to look for.

People, static things, animals, vehicles, etc. Those can easily be faked today.

Complex particle systems with the sheer number in those explosions and behaving the way they do. That is very difficult.

"choosing to focus on all the irrelevant crap"

You mean the fact the videos from early on were not faked?

How is that irrelevant?


EDIT: Another way you might convince me. Prove to me we have time machines, devoted a ton of time to faking the video today or in the future and sent someone back into the 1940s to present the faked videos.

If this was not a complex particle system you'd have an easier time convincing me as people do amazing things with special effects. One place they still fail at is particle systems.

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I have long given up any desire to "convince" anyone to give up their dogma - but I like the irony of your post.

If you ever have any real desire to red pill yourself on the lie that is "atomic bombs" just look long and hard at this one photo. If you don't understand it's significance the problem lies not with the photo...

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I know you like words, lots of words, here are someone else's words to ponder:

We have been bombarded about the threat of nuclear weapons.
At the same time we have been barraged by the claim that nuclear power is essential for our energy needs.
And over and over we have been battered by the assertion that plutonium is the most dangerous element in the world and just coming in contact with it will kill you.
Plutonium is extracted from uranium which is mined in the earth.
By adding neutrons into the nucleus of uranium atoms, plutonium is formed.
Since it decays by emitting alpha particles from it’s nucleus, plutonium is classified as an unstable isotope and the energy emitted from it is called nuclear radiation.
Is this radiation harmful?
When atomic particles leave the nucleus, the atom becomes ionized and these charged particles make up an electric current only if they are moving in an magnetic field.
Nuclear radioactivity does not constitute an electric current and the radiation is not harmful such as the moving ionized charged particles in microwave and x-ray emissions.
The energy escaping from the nuclear radiation is actually minute.
And we are told uranium and plutonium are so powerful that their half life decay rate will last hundreds of millions or even billions of years.
We are also told by harnessing this radiated energy we can derive power from it.
The first nuclear power plants were constructed to develop bombs using plutonium.
The idea was that energy created by the release of atomic particles would form a chain reaction and cause a massively potent explosion creating bombs more powerful than anyone could imagine.
But this did not happen.
The same idea was extended to the sun.
It is taught that the sun is powered by the magic nuclear transformation or decay of hydrogen into helium deep inside it’s interior.
This convective process has never been shown to occur.
In fact as seen in sunspots the sun is cooler in the inside, while out in the corona it is much hotter meaning the sun is powered externally.
The sun is an orb of plasma storing charged particles and releasing them in an electrical drift current.
It is not a nuclear bomb. There is no such thing!
Nikola Tesla showed electric power is everywhere available in unlimited quantities from the natural electromagnetic field of the Earth and that we have no need of fuel or anything else for energy.
But free power is anathema to the Control Grid.
Power companies use the Tesla Coil of alternating currents for power at little cost to them but charge consumers an exorbitant rate.
The first nuclear power plant was built in 1951 near Arco Idaho as an experiment.
In 1957 the first operating plant was built in Shippingport Pennsylvania.
There are now 64 so called nuclear power plants in the USA alone and a total of 104 reactors.
Most were built in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s and were said to last around 40 years.
Why 40 years?
40 years has now arrived.
These facilities were built along rivers, lakes and oceans because water is needed to be converted into steam.
The steam it is said is needed to drive turbines and to cool the reactor cores.
But the real purpose of the steam is for weather modification purposes.
Very few uranium enhancement facilities are still around.
There is only .7% uranium in uranium 235 and when it is enhanced to 4% it is called enriched uranium.
The uranium used for its atoms is called depleted uranium and is only .3% uranium 235.
Since we now have laser technology making bombs is obsolete.
Especially ones that never worked.
But there is all this depleted uranium just sitting around.
So the military came up with the bright idea of dropping it on Afghanistan and Iraq.
Then somebody thought of selling it as a weed killer.
It became Monsanto’s Roundup.
Brainwashed people spray it all over their yard.
Plutonium does not have much use now but is used experimentally in things like medical radiation therapy.
When plutonium is heated and melted and put in a metal tube it will become a glowing battery which would last for some say a hundred years.
It will not be on the market any time soon but would be very useful in a doomsday scenario.
In the late 90’s they started spraying heavy metals in the atmosphere.
These metals which includes uranium were sprayed first from airplanes and now from drones in the form of chemtrails.
This was to ionize the atmosphere in order to control the weather.
This spraying ruined our natural weather and now water vapor has to be sprayed into the air to produce rain.
So now we have surface air coolers or steam plants producing water vapor masquerading as nuclear power plants spread all around the country.
The nuclear power plant lie has been promulgated to keep the real agenda a secret.
Which is controlling the people by controlling the weather.
Soon communities will have to purchase rain.
To shift the focus, this weather transformation or climate change is falsely being blamed on the public as a result of automobile emissions.
Back n the 1940’s it was said Russia had developed a nuclear bomb and we needed to build bigger and better nuclear bombs then what they have.
Also in the 1940’s we were told that particles in a nuclear bomb travel over a mile per second and that anyone in the vicinity will become blind, have their reproductive organs damaged beyond repair and in all probability would instantly die.
Bikini Atoll is one of the Marshall Islands in the East Indies in the South Pacific.
23 offshore nuclear tests are said to have been done there.
The natives had to be kicked out.
These blasts are supposed to create not only tremendous wind but also 100,000 degree Fahrenheit heat and since the explosion was under the water it would also create a tsunami.
But looking at before and after pictures of Bikini Atoll the grass roofed huts, palm trees and swimming docks remain untouched.
As a matter of fact this inconceivable amount of heat would have at the very least turned the whole island into magma.
It only has to be 1300 Fahrenheit to produce lava.
In reality everything at those extreme temperatures would be vaporized!
You see how ridiculously silly this is?
The islanders eventually came back but were kicked again because it was said that strontium was found in crabs.
But why does the military maintain a presence there?
Why do they grow crops there if it is all contaminated by nuclear explosions?
Why are diving tours being conducted there?
Why in the ‘pictures’ of these tests, the boats out on the water near the blast remain unscathed?
Is it because the pictures were faked?
Why is not only the island thriving but the coral reef there is a diverse and well populated underwater habitat.
The Trinity test in New Mexico was supposed to be even bigger.
Why didn’t this blast create a crater?
Why did Robert Oppenheimer and his Generals pose for a picture a few weeks afterwards at ground zero?
That area should have been highly radioactive according to nuclear science.
The onlookers who were allowed to watch said they felt the heat from the blast.
But that means they would have got hit by the radiation.
Why were they not concerned and why did they not suffer any ill effects?
Maybe because it was all faked!
The Bravo bomb test in Nevada was said to be the biggest of all.
Why were so many soldiers allowed to watch?
Why did they not have protective clothing or goggles or anything?
Their eyes should have been fried and their testicles rendered inoperative!
They should have gotten cancer.
The blast cloud is supposed to have reached 60 miles into the air and traveled dozens of miles on the land surface.
Some soldiers are even pictured without a shirt.
The answer is that it was a detonation of dynamite and not any so-called atomic bomb and the soldiers knew that and were not concerned.
It was all a publicity stunt!
If nuclear bombs are real why all the fakery?
Why has Nagasaki and Hiroshima gotten no increase in cancer rates?
Both are thriving tourist towns with no ill effects at all.
The bombs dropped there and also in Tokyo and other cities in 1945 were incendiary fire bombs.
They were dropped nine months after the Japanese emperor wanted peace.
Instead he got nine more months of fire bombing.
Nuclear bombs are supposed to incinerate everything within miles so why were all the buildings in Hiroshima still standing with no structural damage afterwards?
Why has Chernobyl in Russia remained a haven for wildlife?
Why has Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania remained open if it was supposed to leak radioactive elements and cause cancer?
We were assured that the radiation fallout from Fukushima in Japan would contaminate the Pacific Ocean and reach the west coast of the U.S. giving coastal residents cancer and other health problems.
It never happened!
And why were there no blackouts in Japan after Fukushima when only one power plant remained open?
Nuclear power is supposed to account for one third of their energy.
We are told that nuclear power plants like the one at San Onofre in Southern California leaks, but beach goers have went to the beaches right beside it all these years and no one has suffered any ill effects.
Indian Point in upstate New York is supposed to be leaking radioactive material into the drinking water of New York City.
Why hasn’t anyone died form this?
Diablo Canyon and Oyster Creek are among many others which are said to continually leak.
Maybe they are all steam plants!
Yucca Mountain in Nevada is supposedly a huge nuclear waste storage facility but it is instead just a big underground military base.
Hanford in Washington state gets hundreds of millions to clean up the site.
It is all a big scam.
In fact the nuclear reactor scam is second only to the fake NASA moon landing scam.
Both have received upwards near 100 billion dollars.
Both have said they lost or erased technological achievements.
In the 1980’s a physicist named Galen Windsor who worked at different nuclear facilities ridiculed the prevailing opinion by actually consuming plutonium.
He stated nuclear fission is a hoax and that radioactivity is not harmful.
A swat team raided his home and took all his uranium.
He lived into his 80’s with no repercussions from ingesting the plutonium.
Workers at Los Alamos regularly have plutonium in their body.
Some have had it for over 50 years.
Why haven’t they died?
When some manufactured hurricane, earthquake or tsunami hits a power plant a meltdown will be said to have occurred.
This meltdown will be blamed on the explosion of hydrogen gas in the reactors.
This excuse will be used to drive people from their homes and relocate them into Fema Camps.
But
Nuclear reactors do not exist!
Nuclear radiation does not exist!
Nuclear power does not exist!
There are no nuclear weapons!
And there are no atomic bombs!

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Been there... done that.

My dogma?

None of you have done the simplest way to convince me.

Show me how the videos from the 40s could be faked.

ALMOST EVERY single thing you present is irrelevant if you can't do that. (EDIT: added Almost... my absolute was not true)

I am familiar with the field and not knowing of any way to fake what was in those videos is sufficient to say there is something REAL going on there.

Also you won't convince me by jumping through magical thinking hoops and telling me that computers we have today, and techniques we have today existed in the 40s. They didn't.

Is that ironic?

I already explained my observation of people seeing something "THEY" can't explain and deciding therefore the entire thing must be wrong and then they latch onto the fact it can't exist and form that into their new dogma.

Just because YOU don't understand something doesn't make it impossible.

As far as I understand videos there is no way to fake those videos from the 40s.

You could do so today if you put a huge amount of time, money, and effort into making just that one shot. Way beyond anything Hollywood and the film industry is doing.

If it were not a complex particle system they could fake it much easier. Deep fakes don't involve particles, they tend to focus on things that hold and retain a distinct shape like faces.

Those early videos... faking those. Oh man. It's mind boggling what that would take today.

The movies do a PRETTY good job. If you haven't messed with particle system simulation a lot. If you have then you can see the artifacts. Though they are definitely getting smaller and more difficult to see. You can see it in the approach to color, and often repeated shapes that are simply rotated, scaled, and tinted different colors often with some animation to the rotation, scale, and even tint so those things change over time. We can make a pretty good fake. We can't touch those earlier videos yet.

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Also as to dogma. Look how many times you said "does not exist", "there are no", etc.

That my friend is DOGMA.

I don't close the door to the possibility. I have simply seen a piece of evidence I don't see how it could be faked.

Whether they are lying about some things. That I don't doubt. They lie about pretty much everything in one fashion or another.

Yet is there something there. From those videos I'd say yes. Until someone can show me how those 40s videos could have been faked at the time they came out, and even reliably today saying it is "not real" doesn't make sense.

Now I know it is likely a field you know little about so you don't believe me. You seem to limit the possibilities of the world to only things you yourself KNOW ABOUT.

If you don't. Then maybe they don't exist.

If you don't. The maybe they are just wrong.

If you don't. Then the people that don't agree with you are ignorant and stupid.

There is a label for that. DOGMA


Your reply is littered with absolutes. The sign of a closed mind, limiting possibility, already "settled" on their conclusions.

Dogma


To simplify:

There is a big difference between saying "I don't think they exist" and saying "They don't exist".

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Now after stepping away.

I don't think you are stupid.

I don't think you are closed minded.

ALL of us can fall into the trap of DOGMA.

To me a key trait seems to be the presence of absolutes. I still catch myself using them from time to time (I had to edit a reply to you for example).

Yet deciding what does and does not exist based upon each of our own limitations can be extremely flawed.

Some of the things you are talking about could be true. I don't think all of them are.

I certainly also think there is something to the "nuclear bombs" simply from the video evidence. As to all the details about them. I have no clue how extensive the lies may or may not be. I am not going to speculate and then start believing my speculation is fact.

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if they existed they would have been used - but they never have been...odd that...

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I don't know anyone from Hiroshima or Nagasaki so I haven't spoken to anyone about it myself personally.

Again you avoid the simple way you can convince me.

Show me how the videos from the 40s could be faked.

This is especially relevant when you look at what special effects from that time period actually looked like.

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Also... thanks for stepping up. I didn't remember who it was. :)

If I had made a guess I would have guessed the wrong person.

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Nope it wasn't you. It was sift666. He freshly reminded me with his reply. He already sent me down this rabbit hole.

He never did answer the one thing I've offered that could convince me.

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Maybe sift666 had a run in with a whale and had to reinvent himself as a fresh faced and submissive little steemian!

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HAH. If that is the case. Bravo and my lips are sealed. I do remember sift666 getting hammered by whales a lot back then. We discussed it.

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