RE: SteemWorld Support tomorrow ON or OFF?

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The way things are looking right now, I recommend you post for rewards.

I would also recommend to cooperate with a witness, rather than running a witness node, because that is just another can of worms.
But from what I understand, you do not consider this an option, and prefer to work all on your own.

If you want to stay away from chatrooms and meetups that is fine, but it could help with monetization/funding of your projects. Perhaps you need to team up for this too; You could have a far worse product, if you had better marketing/networking, you would make more from it, still.

And lastly: times are tough for steem right now. The price graph looks terrible. When we had funds to distribute, we gave them to all sorts of disloyal golddiggers and now that good projects form, we lack the funds to support those.

Personally, I would recommend you get a different job and to not rely on steem to pay your monthly bills. I wish it was different, but it would seem the most 'grounded' approach to me.

Komm doch mal in den Discord :(



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I need to think about all this for some time. As they now even begin to flag developers like me on here, I'm currently not sure, if this is still the place where I want to be. I'm glad that a missing slice of the puzzle has revealed itself today though (I guess you know what I mean).

Forcing developers to open source everything in the way it happens here made me thinking. This has nothing to do with freedom and pushing creative energy. Many professional game developers would never make their games open source, because of security/manipulation reasons, so they also won't be able to use the SPS for funding. Always the same few mighty blockades at the top.

To me it looks like I'm selling years of work for 77 SBD a day to those people, only to get the proposal funded. Maybe I will stop the proposal and continue to work freely on SteemWorld again.

Need some rest now...

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Forcing developers to open source everything in the way it happens here made me thinking

Nope, no one is forced to open source anything. The expectation of many stakeholders is that if you want US to pay you to develop it, we want to see open source.

If you want to fund your own development or raise capital from your own investors like any other startup, you can do whatever you want.

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The expectation of many stakeholders is that if you want US to pay you to develop it, we want to see open source.

As far as I know not stake holders are paying here but rewards for the projects are taken from the rewards pool. It's true that stakeholders distribute the funds by their votes ...

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Reward pools are funded by inflation, which is a tax on stakeholders. It doesn't just appear magically at no cost to anyone.

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It is a tax on all users. Especially also now content creators 'pay' with lower post rewards - so they also 'fund' the SPS.
I don't say you are wrong, but inflation which hits everybody is not the same as if a view stakeholders would fund any project directly from their own money.

And: inflation impacts you anyway, if you vote for any proposal or not.

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It is a tax on all users

No it is not. If you have literally no STEEM or SP (which is possible, since zero SP accounts now get some RC allowance), neither the value of your stake nor your share of ownership of the total supply declines as a result of inflation.

For everyone else, the effect is proportional. Someone with 1000x more stake is paying 1000x more.

Especially also now content creators 'pay' with lower post rewards

No, stakeholders pay all content rewards via inflation too. Content creators receive content rewards. There is a huge difference. What happened with the enacting of SPS was that a share of inflation that stakeholders pay to content rewards was shifted to SPS. Either way it is still stakeholders paying it.

inflation impacts you anyway, if you vote for any proposal or not.

Sure, but I'm absolutely going to vote in a manner that I believe spends (or does not immediately spend) those inflationary rewards in the manner that gets stakeholders the best value for the cost. If i lose the vote, fair enough, I can sell my stake or accept the disagreement and recognize that you win some and lose some.

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For everyone else, the effect is proportional. Someone with 1000x more stake is paying 1000x more.

Of course I mean everybody else. :)
But there are also 1000 x more small accounts than big ones, which all also pay the inflation - which is altogether quite a lot. Of course we can also call them 'stakeholders', too, but I guess you had big stakeholders in mind when you wrote that stakeholders pay the inflation.

And of course you have a higher risk the higher your stake is, but also a higher chance to make profit, if the STEEM price rises (that's why you originally invested money, I guess).

There is a huge difference.

Yes, that's why I put 'pay' in quotation marks. Content creator don't literally pay, but also contribute to the SPS by passing on a part of their possible rewards.
As (at least in in my opinion) 'content' is the unique feature of STEEM compared to other crypto currencies/blockchains and thus may become an important factor of a future increasing value of STEEM, I value time and effort, content creators invest in the platform as much as the money stakeholders invest.
Actually, I am getting maybe somwhat off topic here, but sometimes my impression is that (big) stakeholders tend to underestimate the value of 'normal little' users for the platform and the success of the blockchain.

Sure, but I'm absolutely going to vote in a manner that I believe spends (or does not immediately spend) those inflationary rewards in the manner that gets stakeholders the best value for the cost.

In your case I am absolutely convinced of that!
And even if my text above may lead to a different impression, I am very thankful that people like you invested lots of money!
However, did you read for example the comments of z8teyb289qav9z (we all know who he is) in this post: "You fucking suck."? No constructive criticism, no thoughtful weighting of words, just flags and insults. Unfortunately, not all big stakeholders act as responsible with their power as you do.

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but I guess you had big stakeholders in mind when you wrote that stakeholders pay the inflation

Not at all. All stakeholders pay proportionately, and I never envisioned otherwise.

Unfortunately, not all big stakeholders act as responsible with their power as you do

True enough. Everyone gets a vote, for better or worse.

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You are making this unnecessarily hard for your supporters.

'I am not sure ... flagging developer like me ... forcing open source ... '
That is how girls talk.

You want more money for your work and I support that, but please be more straightforward and do not go that passive aggressive route. If the proposal does not get approved, you will need to find other methods and being emotional will only alienate those who want to help you and will not serve you well.
That attitude is what made you a target for the bully in the first place.

I only supported the proposal, after I found the open source part in it, btw. Other than that, I am just here fighting for the underdog. Nothing personal. If you want to discuss the matter further, I still recommend Discord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkPGlVqqEP0

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Yes, you are right. This shit is making me go crazy. I just want to continue to work on SteemWorld now and I definitely need more distance to all the drama. I lost at least one day through all this and slept very badly, so it's really time to come back to my real self now.

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Yes back to your real self. Some haven’t slept in years. You did work on steemworld before now.

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I have to agree with that, it's a good advice.

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