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RE: Catastrophic Climate Change

in #science2 years ago

They claim it's completely human caused, and that's clearly false, because humans didn't even exist during these events, and haven't produced even 1% of the CO2 one big volcanic event did in all of human history.

Here you are breaking the fundamental laws of logic. Just because something was caused by event A in the past, it does not mean it cannot be caused by a completely different event B in the future.

That the current GW is rather mild in comparison to earlier GWs is true, but back then, no human civilization existed. It's the cilivization that is running into big problems with adapting, not the planet itself.
That the current GW is caused by anthropogenic carbon emissions (it's not just CO2, but also methane and others) is as-good-as-proven (>99% probability).

What is not proven, and this is what alarmists get wrong all the time, is how the warming will continue. This we simply don't know for sure. Prognosis and extrapolations are very error-prone.
However, as the events are potentially catastrophic, the precautionary principle has to be applied nevertheless.

And the question which measures are adequate and which are not is as also very difficult, as also @lauch3d explained.

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"Just because something was caused by event A in the past, it does not mean it cannot be caused by a completely different event B in the future."

A demonstrable mechanism could conceivably cease. In this matter, I have seen no evidence that this is the case. On the contrary, AGW simply speculates that has happened, and further speculates that people effect climate change. That is the actual logical fallacy. It's rank speculation undertaken for political goals and effected via false narratives inflicted on a generally uninformed public.

"That the current GW is caused by anthropogenic carbon emissions (it's not just CO2, but also methane and others) is as-good-as-proven (>99% probability)."

This is exactly that false narrative. It's complete horseshit. This is why I point out that the entire history of humanity has not produced even 1% of the 'greenhouse gasses' produced by 1 volcanic event. That fact completely disproves that humanity is causing climate change by producing outrageous amounts of CO2.

[Edit: let me add this. During the last 20kya people have provably existed. Prior to the industrial revolution, the AGW hypothesis claims almost no impact by people on climate. Yet what do the last 20kya reveal? Dramatic sea level rise of over 100 meters, huge changes in climate not driven by AGW increases in CO2 emissions.

All reliable evidence completely debunks AGW on every relevant timescale, from hundreds of millions of years, to millions of years, to thousands of years, to decades.]

The fossil record exists, and shows that 1) so called greenhouse gasses do not lead temperature on Earth. Instead temperature changes are shown to lead to increased CO2 and other greenhouse gas emissions. AGW alarmists do not know this, because they simply believe what shills tell them, rather than researching the actual data, and 2) increased CO2 in the atmosphere (~ten times extant levels) dramatically increases the fecundity of natural ecosystems without consequential negative impacts. While our transitory infrastructure has been undertaken before we knew this, the benefit to society of increased productivity so grossly outweighs the costs of simply improving our infrastructure (which it's transitory nature requires we do anyway, just because it wears out, and technological advance renders it obsolete) that the entire FUDding is laughable.

The goals of AGW alarmists are revelatory. Carbon credits are simply the privatization of the basis for life on Earth, and the effect of that privatization is no less than the utter dependence on multinational corporations for the necessities of life, air, water, and food, of all people on Earth. In other words, the total enslavement of all people everywhere to extant equity holders in multinational corporations. Every policy change propounded by AGW alarmists is similarly totalitarian in effect.

Greater productivity of natural ecosystems creates greater prosperity, which creates greater freedom, which is a relative decrease in power of centralized institutions. This is a power grab, nothing more, nothing less.

To ignore this is tantamount to ignoring what stabbing a knife into your carotid will do when evil trolls tell you to.

It's suicide.