Superconductors and Supercapacitors - New Discoveries with Incredible Implications

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By now we've all heard a S. Korean team has claimed to have created a room temperature and ambient pressure superconductor, which a couple other teams have claimed to have replicated. It's pretty important to a very wide array of technologies, from maglev to rail guns, and not least important, CPUs.

However, PNAS just published a team from MIT that claims to have created a supercapacitor made from cement and lamp black. As significant as ambient temperature and pressure superconductors are, being able to store electrical energy in something as ubiquitous as concrete doped with one of the most common and low tech forms of carbon extant is no less propitious. There isn't a structure in the civilized world that doesn't have a large mass of concrete under it. If that foundation slab can be a ~10kw electrical power storage device, the problem of range and charging electric cars is over because they can just draw power from the roadway. Also, the slight inconvenience of them bursting into flames and exploding when their lithium batteries overheat will go away too.

Every house will come with a powerwall...er, floor. Driveway. Whatever. The exotic carbons like buckyballs, graphene, etc., have some issues. Carbon black is no more hazardous than soot.

The opportunities that become possible with these two developments are astounding.



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Sending you greets through the aether ;]

electricity also is not crawling through the wires^^
waay more complex

but nobody cares, especially not dialectic-materialism narradigma (dogmatic narrative)
status quo, scientism, materialistic science

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Well, materials science, opposed to scientism, has the advantage of empirical evidence that can establish cause and effect. When the MIT team tested the supercapacitor material their experiential results are explicable via the physics theories and the calculations based on those theories substantially mirror their experiential data.

Not seen that from proponents of an aether.

Thanks!

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actually it is nothing really new.. and goes back to 1999
that's also why it is calles LK 99

it only has a hype now
also do not really know why so big.. maybe again projection, like so often

and so far as I know many universities have tried to replicate but struggled and failed
many now suspect it to be bs..

while I think it also has to do with the modern worldview/ science which logically struggles to make it work

we will see :) thanks

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I tend to agree with a lot of your thoughts, I think.
Particularly as far as scientism goes as I think there are many pressing areas of research that are affected by scientism via assumptions that are considered settled science.
I've personally known a researcher who left research altogether because he tried to raise funding for research that wasn't popular to pharmaceutical corporate interests. Money won't be granted to things like that, but there's an opposite side where fellow academics will belittle, mock, and discredit papers that aren't corporate-friendly.

There tends to be a lot of scrutiny and suspicion whenever a claimed breakthrough is made with major implications.
One that comes to mind immediately was the team that claimed they had achieved cold fusion, and I've seen credible people who claim that was maligned & called a hoax despite having merit.
The number of people qualified to judge is relatively very small.

Another one that comes to mind is the gentleman who made the car that could convert water into fuel using it's existing engine as a basis, and drove it across the USA. He died running out of the restaurant grasping his chest and claiming he had been poisoned. And property was also stolen If I recall correctly, that is. It all fits neatly into the realm of conspiracy theory.

But this discovery was made in Korea where it may be harder to pull off the same sort of public academic assassination.

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we have now entered the aether world :)
there will be a heck of tons of stuff upcoming in the near future

we can all just speculate, trust the science
and keep our feet still

hahaha, no ofc not - we will have some crazy cool experimentation future :D

"try it or shut up" will be the next motto :D praxeology in "science" not only economics ^^

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Once upon a time I was very much a trust the science kind of person.
I was even planning to be a scientist, but around 9 years ago I stumbled upon some things that totally flipped everything around for me.
You know what's weird is, after I wrote my previous comment I was watching a show called Timcast IRL, and they brought up the LK99 AND mentioned the hydrogen/water car inventor. His name was Meyers. Coincidences like that happen all the time.

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Dear @valued-customer !

There are rumors in Korea that the article is a scam! 🤣

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I assume you are referring to the superconductor discovery. There are claims the discovery has been confirmed by independent teams of researchers. Unless many more teams claim the discovery cannot be replicated, and more teams do not confirm the discovery by replicating the research, that is a strong signal that the discovery is not a scam or hoax.

Thanks!

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I assume you are referring to the superconductor discovery. There are claims the discovery has been confirmed by independent teams of researchers. Unless many more teams claim the discovery cannot be replicated, and more teams do not confirm the discovery by replicating the research, that is a strong signal that the discovery is not a scam or hoax.

Yeah, Your assumes are correct!

In the world I live in, there are claims that the discovery of superconductors is a hoax.

S. Korea still lacks the science and technology to make superconductors with excellent performance.

Thank you!

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It is right to be skeptical of claims of miracles. However, the scientists that published the preprint have apparently provided sufficient information to replicate their research, and numerous teams around the world are certain to be attempting to do just that. Not until the teams attempting to replicate the research report their results will we know if LK99 is indeed superconducting at ambient pressure and high temperatures.

It has been about a week since the initial preprint was published, and there is no speeding up the process. We will have to wait and see.

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question is, is it enough to replicate ourselves. anybody got some blueprints?

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Blueprints? If you read the papers, all the researchers did is dope concrete with lamp black, which spontaneously creates dendritic traces in the matrix, creating large interfaces that enables simple salt water to act as electrolyte and convey charge. Claims of moderate sized foundation slabs being competent to store ~10kwh are the result. Just sink a graphite rod into the matrix as one electrodes (the other would be surficial to avoid the dendritic carbon) and hook up a generator to test the storage capacity of ~90 (or 60) lb blocks, varying the amount of carbon dopant. Tests I've seen reported show that the more carbon black concrete is doped with the less strength the concrete retains. I've seen no tests regarding the effect of rebar reinforcement - although it's predictable that bare steel reinforcement would rust almost instantly to uselessness in a salt water infused slab. Perhaps fiberglass (used fishing rods? I can't help myself regarding recycled cheap materials lol) would provide better reinforcement survival.

Seems utterly simple to test independently with some lamp black, a plastic liner, a bag of concrete, and some salty water.

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aye seems as simple as it gets. we'll see what happens in practice. it all came very sudden ahahaha
this goes on the project list i guess.

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If you do some tests, it would be very useful to others if you let them know what tests you did, how you did them (exactly what you did) and how it worked out. I'd be very interested.

I think it would be a great way to increase the number of electric cars, for example, by turning roads into the batteries, so the cars would be able to draw charge while they were being driven on the roads. They'd still have to have small batteries for the last mile off the freeways, but that would revolutionize the electric vehicle industry and make it practical, eliminating the lithium shortage as a barrier to producing enough new cars, and the grid would not need to be upgraded to deliver power to charging stations, as the roads could serve as a grid. The power lines could be replaced as well, beautifying the world considerably IMHO.

It would make off grid homes very practical with an immense power storage capacity to enable windmills and solar panels and etc. to provide power when the conditions allowed, that was able to be stored in sufficient quantity to provide it for a week or two when the sun didn't shine and the wind didn't blow enough to charge the slab.

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sure i agree. it's just that i have been through similar things before and it felt kinda similar. an obvious solution, easy to grasp in theory... while practically turns out to be anything but. i am thinkijg of solar roadways in particular.

have you built one of these yet? i would happily try but it's always good to have some guide, and if it's just a youtube video or some documentation by other true nerds out there.

just look at samstinehill's work on electrocultureand you know what a permission slip to start something yourself looks like. ahahahaha.

the real tinkerers need to get on this, not some amateur like me, my knowledge was merely good enough for vanlife electrics but doesn't go much beyond it.

if this is indeed a working solution then just passively charging this huge battery with a few solar panels could be way enough already until the free energy dam is finally breaking. storage is the great problem until we start tapping infinite potential on demand.

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