The latter. Everyone is acting like Rambo with mad talk. Just fork him out is a common theme as well as claiming its a communist conspiracy. It seems like everyone is forking crazy.
Perhaps they shouldn't have been quite so hasty with the soft one...
If you punch someone, there's a strong chance you'll get punched back.
That was my very first thought the other day. I think we are on the same page. I am not saying it would never have come to something but I believe communication should have been exhausted before going nuclear. Which it must have seemed like.
Yeah, there is a lot of muscle flexing and we just gonna split and leave - I dont think a lot of people who are here primarily for the money (and nothing wrong with that) get how little a forked off token would be worth.
It kinda reminds me when everyone ran away to whaleshares and weku and bearshares, they ran away but they came running right back when the money wasn't there.
I am quite pissed off about it. I am mostly pissed off because there is this narrative going on here where if you disagree with the vocal majority (minority cos lots of users DGAF for politics) then you are to be sneered at or derided. Whatever happened to debate. Opinions other than your own being valid. Its almost like fucking Twitter.
I disagree with lots of people and will happily agree that we dont agree but I dont start calling them names or being snide. And I can be quite snide!
And the sheep... don't get me started. I have never heard so many bleat about decentralisation before!!
That is what's called a loud minority. Honestly. If anyone wants to hate me because I refuse to use their brain to think with,I win by default.
I was one of the only ones who didn't run away to double dip on those other sites. I never bought votes. I only have one account. Voted manually. Honest every step of the way. You don't get points for that though.
I've argued with many and I can say we all kinda got over it and learned to get along, so I can give a few credit there. But like I keep saying, I'm disappointed. I don't want to be forced to take sides. Fuck it. If I die alone, I die alone. I don't care.
I always said and published many times. There's more to life than this fucking either, or. More than coke or pepsi. More than up or down, left or right. Stretch your arms out, look at your left hand, look at your right hand. Choose only one? What about that fucking thing in the middle you can't see. Why not use that? People don't use their heads anymore, man.
It has been a few hours. I've been watching everything I can. Make sure you check out Justin's tweets. There's a lot of folks doing a decent job of standing up for the place as well. Some trolls of course... and that's frustrating, but whatever.
Yeah, the hackers thing. Outrageous. He is quite patently a master at the disinformation game. I didn't agree with the softfork but I wonder if that's how he actually sees it?
I didn't agree with the soft fork either, but I accepted it as what's done is done, what's next? When I saw Justin's post and how so many felt like it was a victory, because they did that, and he spoke, I wasn't impressed. I knew right away that March 6th date was just buying time for something. Nobody pushed to get things done sooner, nobody pushed to talk NOW. Instead they volunteered aggroed to hold a microphone. Right then and there, things could have deescalated and a deal could have been made instead of waiting. He outsmarted these folks. But now three other businesses are getting dragged though the mud in the form of exchanges. Poloniex asks for papers. They're legit and can't be making deals like that, especially in the USA. He must have taken it quite seriously and must have been offended to sacrifice so much, and also emotionally immature and socially stunted. I can't say for sure but I don't think he knows what he's doing. OR... we're being trolled and this is just one big publicity stunt.
We can never underestimate the thought that he could be absolutely trolling us. The exchange funds will be returned to them very quickly and users of said exchanges will lose nothing. The real world barely cars about crypto and chain attacks. I find the Polo quite suspicious. He owns the damn thing does he not?
When they were celebrating how stupid he was I fear they got it quite wrong
13 weeks powerdown though. Unless they fork, which is the plan, for three days, which is incredibly stupid. I'd prefer the old 100 and some odd weeks, with perks to hold in SAVINGS for three days, if one wanted to go that route.
I never liked Polo. They fucked me. I think he owns some.
Maybe he saw blocktrades playing a pivotal role, and thought if these folks can use an exchange, I can too.
When some were downvoting people who didn't agree, I lost a bit of confidence. It's all so fucking confusing though. Surreal even.
Dude seems to throw money around like he has an endless supply. 800 mil doesn't last long if you spend 3.5 mil on a dinner with Warren, then another 10 here, or whatever. It doesn't make sense to kill it. All those people quit. Maybe dude just didn't like Steemit Inc and wanted to fuck it over. Steemit blog post is all bullshit though. Promising more money for witnesses. More money for content producers. Without saying 'how', I don't listen to that shit. Fluff. Thinks we're bottom feeders who'd cheer for a raise? I don't want a fucking participation award.
I didn't see any hostility for now. I don't think I earned much from the old ones. May be I will earn money from new ones. Older ones have enough people like me. May be they make me a part of new Steemit. Trying get their attention. May be older ones try to buy back me.
So why do you define them as "Hostile"? Everybody wants power. Now I can see that they are the most powerful ones.
Why do you still vote for old ones? What is your expectation from them? Do you know any of them?
If everyone cancelled their power down and made sure they were voting for 17 or so of the top witnesses who existed before yesterday, we would not be in this mess for long.
I'm struggling with this. I recently cancelled a powerdown. Looking at that button again. Looking at the editor, thinking about what to say. There's a lot I could say.
I removed all my witness votes. A few hours ago I went back and placed a few where they belong, for now.
It's not an easy choice, some of the witnesses (most of them) are just here to make money, too. It's got a flavour of brand loyalty to it or something.
Some people are voting for old witnesses (top guys active and not running 22.5) to see if we can ignore Steemit. I'm not saying they deserve it, but it seems better to me than the alternative for the next week or so.
I think if that Steemitblog announced a change to the power down happens soon, you won't have to wait long to power down, but I hope you have access to an exchange that isn't 'frozen' and get out while you can. I don't need the money, so I'll just wait it out until things are clear. I'm not going to get trapped with a Tron pump and dump though.
I'm going to wait a few more weeks until this plays out to make my decision. I'm not migrating to Tron, I'll try something else if that happens.
I hope you don't give up no matter what happens. There is definitely work going on right now to back up written content and I know you have your art stored somewhere. So it won't be gone, but yeah starting again from 0 SP or whatever could be tough.
Someone will be keen to keep something like this going, the value could tank for a while, so as long as there is other revenue coming in, it can be survived. Maybe another break will be in order soon (keep one eye on Steem at least).
Blood red skies, thats what it will take to break me!
Yaaararrgghghhhhh!!
Do you know if there are any professionals in negotiations right now or is everyone just acting like fucking keyboard warriors?
The latter. Everyone is acting like Rambo with mad talk. Just fork him out is a common theme as well as claiming its a communist conspiracy. It seems like everyone is forking crazy.
Perhaps they shouldn't have been quite so hasty with the soft one...
Unbelievable. I'm speechless. If you punch someone, there's a strong chance you'll get punched back.
I'm disappointed as well. None of this shit needed to happen.
That was my very first thought the other day. I think we are on the same page. I am not saying it would never have come to something but I believe communication should have been exhausted before going nuclear. Which it must have seemed like.
I'm angry. But I'm not going to go out there and act like a fucking child.
So now what? Is it two groups of wannabe leaders flexing their muscles and sheep following along?
Fuck. Fucking fuck. I am fucking speechless.
Yeah, there is a lot of muscle flexing and we just gonna split and leave - I dont think a lot of people who are here primarily for the money (and nothing wrong with that) get how little a forked off token would be worth.
It kinda reminds me when everyone ran away to whaleshares and weku and bearshares, they ran away but they came running right back when the money wasn't there.
I am quite pissed off about it. I am mostly pissed off because there is this narrative going on here where if you disagree with the vocal majority (minority cos lots of users DGAF for politics) then you are to be sneered at or derided. Whatever happened to debate. Opinions other than your own being valid. Its almost like fucking Twitter.
I disagree with lots of people and will happily agree that we dont agree but I dont start calling them names or being snide. And I can be quite snide!
And the sheep... don't get me started. I have never heard so many bleat about decentralisation before!!
That is what's called a loud minority. Honestly. If anyone wants to hate me because I refuse to use their brain to think with, I win by default.
I was one of the only ones who didn't run away to double dip on those other sites. I never bought votes. I only have one account. Voted manually. Honest every step of the way. You don't get points for that though.
I've argued with many and I can say we all kinda got over it and learned to get along, so I can give a few credit there. But like I keep saying, I'm disappointed. I don't want to be forced to take sides. Fuck it. If I die alone, I die alone. I don't care.
All I know is I'm angry, holding a lot in.
Don't hold it in. That's how explosions happen!!
I don't want to be on a side either but it's seeming very if your not on our side your on their side kind of thinking.
I like to step back further and see more sides.
Fuck it, it's only the fucking internet
I always said and published many times. There's more to life than this fucking either, or. More than coke or pepsi. More than up or down, left or right. Stretch your arms out, look at your left hand, look at your right hand. Choose only one? What about that fucking thing in the middle you can't see. Why not use that? People don't use their heads anymore, man.
They don't. They wait to be told how to think then assume the thought is there. Gaar, I'm off to bed. Tomorrow is a new day!
Thanks for hanging out man.
It has been a few hours. I've been watching everything I can. Make sure you check out Justin's tweets. There's a lot of folks doing a decent job of standing up for the place as well. Some trolls of course... and that's frustrating, but whatever.
I am not long up after a gnarly sleep. Will check them out!
Seems a bit sketchy. Called everyone 'hackers'. It's tough for me to even deem that to be a half truth.
It's been a long day. Probably my turn to sleep.
Yeah, the hackers thing. Outrageous. He is quite patently a master at the disinformation game. I didn't agree with the softfork but I wonder if that's how he actually sees it?
I didn't agree with the soft fork either, but I accepted it as what's done is done, what's next? When I saw Justin's post and how so many felt like it was a victory, because they did that, and he spoke, I wasn't impressed. I knew right away that March 6th date was just buying time for something. Nobody pushed to get things done sooner, nobody pushed to talk NOW. Instead they volunteered aggroed to hold a microphone. Right then and there, things could have deescalated and a deal could have been made instead of waiting. He outsmarted these folks. But now three other businesses are getting dragged though the mud in the form of exchanges. Poloniex asks for papers. They're legit and can't be making deals like that, especially in the USA. He must have taken it quite seriously and must have been offended to sacrifice so much, and also emotionally immature and socially stunted. I can't say for sure but I don't think he knows what he's doing. OR... we're being trolled and this is just one big publicity stunt.
We can never underestimate the thought that he could be absolutely trolling us. The exchange funds will be returned to them very quickly and users of said exchanges will lose nothing. The real world barely cars about crypto and chain attacks. I find the Polo quite suspicious. He owns the damn thing does he not?
When they were celebrating how stupid he was I fear they got it quite wrong
13 weeks powerdown though. Unless they fork, which is the plan, for three days, which is incredibly stupid. I'd prefer the old 100 and some odd weeks, with perks to hold in SAVINGS for three days, if one wanted to go that route.
I never liked Polo. They fucked me. I think he owns some.
Maybe he saw blocktrades playing a pivotal role, and thought if these folks can use an exchange, I can too.
When some were downvoting people who didn't agree, I lost a bit of confidence. It's all so fucking confusing though. Surreal even.
Yeah, no doubt the plan is to fork so they can funnel it out quickly.
I suspect he had a long history with exchanges and knew all along he could do this.
It's a crazy place, we have to hope that he doesn't run it into the ground. Although that would make no sense.
Dude seems to throw money around like he has an endless supply. 800 mil doesn't last long if you spend 3.5 mil on a dinner with Warren, then another 10 here, or whatever. It doesn't make sense to kill it. All those people quit. Maybe dude just didn't like Steemit Inc and wanted to fuck it over. Steemit blog post is all bullshit though. Promising more money for witnesses. More money for content producers. Without saying 'how', I don't listen to that shit. Fluff. Thinks we're bottom feeders who'd cheer for a raise? I don't want a fucking participation award.
It's like the bribe isn't it. You will all get more money!!!
He obviously just wants his vision for Steemit and fuck the rest of us but hopefully that doesn't mean destroying it
Dangling a carrot. Doesn't work, sorry.
It doesn't.
I find myself getting more and more pissed off because this shit us taking up so much of the platform. It's so damaging
Consuming everything and everyone. I'm not immune.
Still haven't slept. Been awake for exactly 24 hours, soon.
If only we were immune.
I want to go back to the way things were! Damn you Ned!
And get some sleep!!
This guy asks"Do you afraid of me?" =P
I'm curious. Why would you vote for those hostile witnesses?
I didn't see any hostility for now. I don't think I earned much from the old ones. May be I will earn money from new ones. Older ones have enough people like me. May be they make me a part of new Steemit. Trying get their attention. May be older ones try to buy back me.
So why do you define them as "Hostile"? Everybody wants power. Now I can see that they are the most powerful ones.
Why do you still vote for old ones? What is your expectation from them? Do you know any of them?
Those aren't even people. You're trying to brown nose account names with no human mind behind them. Good luck with that.
One human centralized the blockchain and you don't see hostility. That's interesting.
I think one of the biggest hole in crypto space closed by this way for now.
Am I hostile with you now?
For 20$ I will vote for per old witnesses for one year. What a deal :)
It is not hard to change it, If any of them come and kindly request it from me.
Agreed 100%.
Be strong brother! Be wise!
Say no to rage quitting!
Maybe even a drink while at it.
I don't drink at times like these for if I did, there would be hell to pay.
I don't drink at times
Like these for if I did, there
Would be hell to pay.
- nonameslefttouse
I'm a bot. I detect haiku.
Never a dull day.
I don't know what to say. No rules in a street fight. You put your guard up, cover your face, and get kicked in the nuts.
Nah, the trick is to make it a all in brawl.
Mind if I smash a chair over your head? It might make me feel better and you'd be helping.
It will bring back the golden memories of childhood.
I think Elon Musk said something like, "It's better to be an optimist and wrong than to be a pessimist and right."
I just a saw a few I told ya so posts. People who haven't posted for awhile, rubbing it in.
I saw your post talking about forking away. Everyone just giving up? I knew I shouldn't have gone out there and looked. What's going on man?
Giving up? No. I think some fork or another is inevitable though, so it is best to understand what is going on.
I bought a little more Steem tonight.
I only did this to put two girls through college and keep myself off the streets. The well is drying up and I've not splurged on anything in years.
This has been a bad day.
Yet somehow I've had worse.
There is always worse, but in the working toward better is where life value lays.
I must sleep. Running on 2 hours sleep from last night, and only looks like I will get 2 tonight as well... Another day, another way.
Thanks for hanging out man.
Oh, and those I told you so people will come and go like clouds on a windy day, but will always be wankers.
If everyone cancelled their power down and made sure they were voting for 17 or so of the top witnesses who existed before yesterday, we would not be in this mess for long.
I ain't going nowhere either.
I'm struggling with this. I recently cancelled a powerdown. Looking at that button again. Looking at the editor, thinking about what to say. There's a lot I could say.
I removed all my witness votes. A few hours ago I went back and placed a few where they belong, for now.
It's not an easy choice, some of the witnesses (most of them) are just here to make money, too. It's got a flavour of brand loyalty to it or something.
Some people are voting for old witnesses (top guys active and not running 22.5) to see if we can ignore Steemit. I'm not saying they deserve it, but it seems better to me than the alternative for the next week or so.
I think if that Steemitblog announced a change to the power down happens soon, you won't have to wait long to power down, but I hope you have access to an exchange that isn't 'frozen' and get out while you can. I don't need the money, so I'll just wait it out until things are clear. I'm not going to get trapped with a Tron pump and dump though.
I'm going to wait a few more weeks until this plays out to make my decision. I'm not migrating to Tron, I'll try something else if that happens.
I don't know what I'm going to do. I know I won't be going somewhere to start from scratch. This was far too much work to simply give up on.
I hope you don't give up no matter what happens. There is definitely work going on right now to back up written content and I know you have your art stored somewhere. So it won't be gone, but yeah starting again from 0 SP or whatever could be tough.
Someone will be keen to keep something like this going, the value could tank for a while, so as long as there is other revenue coming in, it can be survived. Maybe another break will be in order soon (keep one eye on Steem at least).
Congratulations @nonameslefttouse!
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