200 Billion Face Masks/Gloves Going MONTHLY Into the Environment

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So now we have to ask ourselves, WHOSE lives are we exactly saving when obeying the "social distancing mantra" to prevent covid19 from spreading and considering that all our trash always ends up into the environment?

That's a tough question because everything we do to nature comes back to haunt us until we finally address it!

This is exactly why capitalism is a blind ideology. We too have spent a decade defending "precious metals" but we finally realized that we're chasing windmills as capitalism only sees profits, hence distorting reality in favor of a ruthless individualism.

Although some economists were already sounding the alarm 50 years ago, society never really cared about what was done to the environment because people had lots of purchasing power... until the first crack, caused by the dotcom bust, occurred. Then things finally began to change in slow motion.

Environmentalists began their dire warnings in the early 2010s but it just was lots of rhetoric. Though we took notice at the time and pursued an off the grid lifestyle for about 8 years, and preached in favor of "conscious consumerism". Overnight we became the enemy of capitalism while still defending precious metals at the time . I found myself at odds with the system that only wants consumers to kill themselves for the sake of endless consumption.

That is when we threw in the towel and began to regard a money-free society as a viable and wise option.

That most people have just begun to comprehend that their fate and the future of the planet are intertwined has come with tremendous pressure and the expense of biodiversity, the several ongoing ecocides getting worse by the day. There is no rational thinking that can possibly explain people working jobs they generally hate just to satisfy the obsession with hoarding: it is really discombobulating.

Living with less while improving the quality of life should become our absolute priority.

This new ecological crisis is screaming at us that society is on the wrong path again, that the elites cannot be trusted and that we have to change our ways urgently, this could be one of the last very last warnings that we'll get before we get sucked into the Matrix forever.

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JULY 2020 -- Every Month, 200 Billion Face Masks and Gloves Are Going Into the Environment : “It’s important to understand we had a tremendously grave crisis before the pandemic even started in terms of plastic waste in the ocean. And now you can take the global pandemic,” Cress said in the BBC interview. “At the current rate, we’re putting a 129 billion — I’m saying billion — face masks into the environment every single month. [And] 65 billion plastic gloves into the environment every single month. A significant portion of those would be disposed of improperly and wind up in the ocean.” https://www.greenmatters.com/p/face-masks-gloves-litter-coronavirus



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This is exactly why capitalism is a blind ideology. We too have spent a decade defending "precious metals" but we finally realized that we're chasing windmills as capitalism only sees profits, hence distorting reality in favor of a ruthless individualism.

you mean corporatism
we don't have capitalism

For more than half a century, and although some economists were already sounding the alarm 50 years ago, society never really cares about what was done to the environment because people had lots of purchasing power... until the first crack, caused by the dotcom bust, occurred. Then things finally began to change in slow motion.

so you think devaluating our all money was/ is a good idea?

all the problems you talk about are cuz we have centrally planned economoy - no capitalism..

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Hello .... I have explained this many times... as soon as money enters the picture, collusion is not preventable, nor is the monopoly on value... so conscious capitalism is can't possibly be. These are major flaws embedded in the premise itself

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so you just say money can't just be a product of the market instead of it being centrally created and the whole economy forced to use it?

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first, value must be decided otherwise the market cannot function, and on top of that value remains subjective, that is why value fluctuates so easily. But as soon as the value is determined, collusion starts mushrooming... this is a dynamics that inherent to monetarism. I have come to the conclusion that money was never meant to enhance freedom but cartels of all kinds... even economists like von Mises and Hayek, knew that markets were flawed because of that and even conceived that some form of UBI for the lower class would be necessary. Nothing can stabilize value but a monopoly on value.

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first, value must be decided otherwise the market cannot function

wrong- the market decides about prices and value..
market value is all subjective value together and the equilibrium out of it

do you know austrian school of economy?

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I have come to the conclusion that money was never meant to enhance freedom but cartels of all kinds...

depends on what you understand as money.. if the modern centralized version.. then yes..

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OMG, quit lying about Mises and Hayek.

And value is never stabilized. Prices are continually changing in response to market conditions.

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You have never been pro-von mises and Hayek but a mere capitalist agreeing with the corporate way of maximizingprofits, I have debated this with your for 3 years........................................... what market conditions, those decided by the monopoly on value? look at the Oil price, manipulated for decades... and now that the oil age is ending, they allow it to go down.............. OPEN YOUR EYES :)

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I adore Mises, this is why I correct your nonsense. He single handedly destroyed your communism with reason. Mises is the quintessential capitalist and has systematically destroyed all your talking points long before you were born.

You have not debated me on this at all. All you did was provide one out of context quote from Hayek. Quote mining is your forte.

look at the Oil price, manipulated for decades..

Yes, yes, whatever way the market goes, the mysterious "they" causes it. Not very convincing. But easy on the brain. You don't have to think your way through events, just blame it on a conspiracy.

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collusion is not preventable

What are you even saying? People are unable to collude on things without money?

Monopoly on value

WTF? Everybody values things, how can you possibly monopolize that? Utter nonsense.

Conscious capitalism is can't possibly be

There are major flaws in this sentence. lol

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yes, the mere presence of money... causes collusion: TOTAL 255 trillion global debt bubble and the top 0.1% is filthy rich .. you must start opening your eyes. You are not a conscious capitalist because otherwise, you'd understand the basic flaws :)

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It takes people to collude on something. They don't need money to do so.

col•lude
To act together, often in secret, to achieve an illegal or improper purpose.
To conspire in a fraud or deception; act in concert through a secret understanding

The large debt is not created by the free market, it is created by large centralized governments that can't stop spending money. They print it as fast as they spend it. If you don't like these enormous debts, go after governments printing fiat.

The top 0.1% are very rich, this is true. Why are you jealous of your betters? You think those insanely driven people waste time complaining on the internet? No, they are busy creating things.

I am conscious and I am a capitalist, so I have no idea what you are claiming.

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conscious capitalism is possibly. it's very simple :

informed consent.

those littering are worst than apes.

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It is a nonsense term. You use your reason to participate in capitalism. When you decide to trade for something you want or need, when you trade your labor for something, whenever you decide to do anything economical...you are acting consciously and participating in capitalism.

And littering is not inherent to capitalism, socialist countries like china and Russia are the worst polluters.

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But what you do not understand that profits without EXPLOITATION is impossible. You said it yourself when approving all the sweatshops claiming that getting paid 2 dollars/day has lifted these people out of poverty... you are just condoning slavery in fact... that is that capitalist mentality.

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What you don't understand could fill the pacific ocean.

When a sweatshop in china offers 2 dollars a day, the person could take that job and improve their economy, or not take the job and try not to starve to death on 1 dollar a day back on the farm. All the jobs you call horrible are actually a boon for those who can land them.

This is exactly where the US was in 1800's. People earned a dollar a day for a full day of labor. That was sunup to sundown, not the 8 hour days that capitalism allows us now. 200 years of progress has made us much better off. It did not happen over night, and it will not happen over night in poor countries today. But we can see the progress.

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if all the factoring costs were taking into account BEFORE implementing anything, profits wouldn't be... or it would take so much energy for so little profits... one cannot take out more than what one puts in.... this is physics

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Alright! I get to plug The Ocean Cleanup again! What a wonderful bunch of people actually tackling a problem head on and solving it. They are such a refreshing change from all the negativity and whining and complaining that spews out of this channel.

Let's peek at the latest adventures of their 4th river cleanup barge and where it will be deployed:

Good people doing good things...with money!

This is the coolest part. They reclaim the plastic to make products that people can buy to help fund the project. You can get something made out of the plastic they take out of the ocean.
https://products.theoceancleanup.com/

You can check out the project here:
https://theoceancleanup.com/

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you always come up with the same "ocean clean up" machines but did you find a way that PREVENTS millions of tonnes of plastic from reaching the environment/ocean yet, because at this pace cleanups will NOT change the situation... they cannot pick it up fast enough from the oceans/rivers, I am afraid.

A REAL conscious capitalist would first worry about plastic production...

go to the supermarket and see how much plastic you take home... HOW DO YOU ELIMINATE THAT is key... and because you also assume that at the pace we dispose of plastic in the environment that the "ocean clean-ups machines" be able to recycle 100%, yes maybe for a while... then the brick wall will present itself.

conclusion: come up with a solution that STOPS plastic production at the household level... then prepare for another economic crash :)

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Its pretty cool setup, right? These wonderful people are actually DOING something. If they succeed, they will have cleared the majority of plastics from the oceans in a few years. What a wonderful project!

But of course this is not good enough for you, a lazy piece of crap that does nothing but whine and moan and complain. Amazing...

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Hello there.

What do you say regarding the Communist systems and their environmental destruction?

Also, we haven't experienced 'Capitalism' nor a 'Free Market' yet.

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I dont see it like that, money and the centralization of power are bedfellows. All the monetary systems lead to tyranny, collectivism or fascism. It is just a matter of time. I have defended the free markets for over 10 years and I am done. Property rights are a double edged sword, because in such a structure those who own less are owned by those who have more... hierarchy is inescapable under monetarism

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I see. Thanks for your opinion.

How about my first question:

What do you say regarding the Communist systems and their environmental destruction?

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