RE: The Partnership : Huawei & Leica - Designer Chronicles, Vol. 2

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Hello, @whangster79
If I understand correctly, all the pictures were taken by your brand's smartphone?
This is a very good quality not only for 2015. These photos look like the pages of glossy magazines, it feels like an experienced designer is behind them.
For some reason, I have a feeling that a photographer without design experience would have taken these pictures differently.
Great job.
How many manual settings are there for your brand's smartphone cameras?
Or do you focus on software photo processing?

Cheers and !BEER
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Hey @bambuka ! Thanks for stopping by~
Actually to answer your question simply Yes! because hilarious as it may sound when we were around the boss man... he told us not to use iPhones. hehehehe. and especially for that day where we met Leica for the first time? Definitely probably was a Huawei phone at the time if I try to remember. The camera for Huawei at the time was already pretty good because by that time most industries use similar ranges in specs. By doing so you get a "should I get a Canon or a Nikon camera?" type of zone.

As for Photography experience... I am not sure where I can call myself a photographer... ahahaha. your too kind. :) This is what I have found why photographers are different thinkers than us. When taking a photo for example, at first the same principles of what makes a good photo a good photo goes in our heads... if you learned product design then a lot of theory we try to practice in the real world is application of the golden ratio. This ratio at least to me is kind of a guide to understand where placements go, how darks and lights should have some balance.

Both the photographer and product designer has the very same general understanding which creates a foundation and applying Proportions, ratios, compositions of element is how a photo is shot, and how a product is produced. Because... funny... at the end of the day... the photo has to look good, and the product has to look good too!

The last Huawei mobile project I was in was at 2019 I think. And from that time frame to now I am sure It has changed dramatically so when it comes to features I cannot be sure I will look it up for you.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-use-the-huawei-p9-camera/
This seems like it explains all modes in detail.

As for how many manual settings are there in the phone? There are ZERO. :)
Any part in the camera structure and layout design for a phone camera there cannot be moving parts... and all the processing is done via Leica's own OEM software that comes with the phone.

There is one thing for certain is that The real biggest difference I saw when I was using Huawei Leica Phones were that the Black and White photos were absolutely amazing.. the deep blacks and the brightest whites were truly unbelievable. They did not just get a color photo and the software desaturate it... NO. It had its own black and white specific lens which helped make true black white photos. :)

I hope this can explain to you and help you understand how two companies created something pretty amazing... which if you ever happen to find a store try out thier camera... I guarantee you wont be disappointed.

Cheers!!!

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Huawei designer takes photos with Huawei - this is normal :-))

I agree with you, photographers and designers are guided by the general techniques of photography. But when the photographer looks at the subject, he can focus on some detail of it with his thoughts in his head. He will develop them during post-processing.

The designer has a task to show the object itself in the most advantageous variant. There are also laws of marketing and advertising. He will choose a different background, a different angle, a different composition. Maybe I'm wrong or I'm expressing my thoughts incomprehensibly. They just came to my mind when I was looking at your photos)

Thanks for the link. It was interesting to learn about the capabilities of huawei p9. There really is a Pro mode with manual settings and even a RAW format. It is very cool.
I use a Galaxy M31. It has 4 lenses, but I prefer to use a regular digital camera and manual optics for photography :)

As for how many manual settings are there in the phone? There are ZERO.

I didn't mean the moving parts of the phone :-)) I was referring to the mode of setting/adjusting shooting parameters. In the cells, it is marked "M".

It had its own black and white specific lens which helped make true black white photos. :)

It is interesting. The lens is focused on black and white photography...how does it differ from conventional lenses? I haven't heard of such lenses. Can you give examples?

I thank you for such an exhaustive answer, I appreciate it.

Have a good time of the day 🖐 😊

Cheers and !BEER
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By reading your comment you will be a perfect product designer if you want to and I like the way how we are adding in to how designers and photographers see the world. In its essence we understand how to see and catch detail in scenes and objects. The laws of marketing and advertising... very cool you actually know this... not many realize the importance or even care to think about it. I have tried to combine the two of design and marketing into a new department. Maybe I will elaborate on this subject on a blog post one day~~ placed on check list! :)

As for the optical technology since phones improve so drastically model by model, month by month... I have a feeling that the tech I explained for 2015 is now obsolete compared to the Galaxy M31 due to the fact the M31 was launched on early 2020. Its probably way superior than a phone cam from 2015. :) I do wonder if the black and white photography is still superior in Huawei devices... I have not used the most recent device... although I am eager to just buy one.... hehehe. I will post a photo I took that used the black and white feature from Leica on the Huawei P9 to be exact.

The two images you see here has not been altered. Its an image taken directly from the normal mode and then black n white photography feature. Take a Look and let me know what you think. Completely honest photos pure and raw as it gets. :)

Thanks! Great conversation I really enjoy~ Hope this helps.

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I am not engaged in design or marketing, I have nothing to sell :-))
But I like your words. Thanks.

If someone is engaged in product design, then first of all it should be aimed at marketing. At least this is important for the company)

As for the optical technology... I have nothing to compare it with. Yes, technology is developing rapidly. To be honest, I practically don't shoot with my Galaxy M31. It's just that I haven't been outside without a camera for a long time...even to the store, not to mention nature. But I know that there are 4 cameras installed on it at once. This increases the shooting capabilities, but I have not seen shooting in RAW mode in the settings. I don't like how the software handles snapshots. I'm used to doing it manually.

I will post a photo I took that used the black and white feature from Leica on the Huawei P9 to be exact.

This is a very good quality for a smartphone camera. I like the softness of the shades of gray and the pleasant contrast. It even looks a bit like a film photograph.

Yes, I agree, we had a very good conversation and I learned a lot of new and useful things for myself.
Thanks :)

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