Math mini-contest problem for Day 2 on D.Buzz

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Math mini-contest problem for Day 2 on D.Buzz 😎

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On the Cartesian plane, @holovision and @jfang003 are respectively at (10,2) and (3,6). @ahmadmangazap is above them and is twice as far from @jfang003 as @holovision. What is the position of @ahmadmangazap?


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My answer guess is (16/3, 14/3) or (5.33, 4.67)for positions of ahmadmangazap.

R=P + 2/3(P-Q) (Point P minus two-thirds the difference between P and Q)
R=(10,2) + 2/3(3-10, 6-2) = (16/3, 14/3).

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Based on your answer, we get the following distances:

Let A = @ahmadmangazap, H = @holovision, and J = @jfang003

distance between A and H
= sqrt((10 - 16/3)^2 + (2 - 14/3)^2)
= sqrt((14/3)^2 + (-8/3)^2)
= sqrt(196/9 + 64/9)
= sqrt(260/9)
= 2 * sqrt(65) / 3

distance between A and J
= sqrt((3 - 16/3)^2 + (6 - 14/3)^2)
= sqrt((-7/3)^2 + (4/3)^2)
= sqrt(49/9 + 16/9)
= sqrt(65/9)
= sqrt(65) / 3

The original problem says that the distance of @ahmadmangazap from @jfang003 is twice that of @holovision. Your answer is the opposite - the position you specified has twice the distance from @holovision as @jfang003. @ahmadmangazap must be farther from @jfang003 than from @holovision, but your answer says otherwise. Sorry!

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is @ahmadmangazap at (15,4) ?

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Based on your answer, we get the following distances:

Let A = @ahmadmangazap, H = @holovision, and J = @jfang003

distance between A and H
= sqrt((10 - 15)^2 + (2 - 4)^2)
= sqrt((-5)^2 + (-2)^2)
= sqrt(25 + 4)
= sqrt(29)

distance between A and J
= sqrt((3 - 15)^2 + (6 - 4)^2)
= sqrt((-12)^2 + (2)^2)
= sqrt(144 + 4)
= sqrt(148)
= 2 * sqrt(37)

2 * sqrt(37) is not twice sqrt(29).

There are multiple possible answers for the problem, though is clear that your answer is incorrect. πŸ™ Thanks for participating! πŸ˜ƒ

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If the plane is a representation of (X,Y)
I (ahmadmangazap) above them which means my Y is bigger than 6.

There arent enough information to solve this. You can't be as twice as far from both of them in Y-axis. Distance isn't specified to X-axis alone. There's no one solution.

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is it 14, 17?

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Based on your answer, we get the following distances:

Let A = @ahmadmangazap, H = @holovision, and J = @jfang003

distance between A and H
= sqrt((10 - 14)^2 + (2 - 17)^2)
= sqrt((-4)^2 + (-15)^2)
= sqrt(16 + 225)
= sqrt(241)

distance between A and J
= sqrt((3 - 14)^2 + (6 - 17)^2)
= sqrt((-11)^2 + (-11)^2)
= sqrt(121 + 121)
= sqrt(242)
= 11 * sqrt(2)

11 * sqrt(2) is not twice sqrt(241).

Sorry, but even if there are multiple possible answers for the problem, it is clear that your answer is incorrect. πŸ™ Thanks for trying to answer! πŸ˜ƒ

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Answers

There are many possible positions of @ahmadmangazap. However, for a participant to be considered as winner, they must have submitted at least one correct posiiton of @ahmadmangazap.

The easiest to get is (-4,10). Nevertheless, any participant who submitted any possible position of @ahmadmangazap in the original problem shall be considered as winner.

Solutions

Graphing method

We can visually obtain the position of @ahmadmangazap is to draw the points, and draw circles around @holovision with radius starting from 1 and increasing by 1, and @jfang003 with starting radius 2 and increasing by 2, until the circumferences of the circles touch each other at least once above 6 in the y-axis.

(12, 6.032) is a possible position of @ahmadmangazap based on the graph, though you have to use a big and precise graphing area (graphing apps such as Desmos is recommended).

Distance between A and H
= sqrt((10 - 12)^2 + (2 - 6.032)^2)
= sqrt((-2)^2 + (-4.032)^2)
= 4.5008

Distance between A and J
= sqrt((3 - 12)^2 + (6 - 6.032)^2)
= sqrt((-9)^2 + (0.032)^2)
= 9.0001

Because we used approximation in 6.032, we get rounding error in the distances. However, that is an acceptable error.

Midpoint method

Just place @ahmadmangazap somewhere on the graph such that @jfang003 becomes the midpoint of @ahmadmangazap and @holovision.

The midpoint formula is (xm, ym) = ((xa + xb)/2, (ya + yb)/2), such that:

Our equation is now (3,6) = ((xa + 10)/2, (ya + 2)/2). In the equation, xa = -4 and ya = 10. Therefore, a possible position of @ahmadmangazap is (-4,10).

Systemic method

Nevermind the solution below, since I believe I already explained enough using the easier solutions above, unless you want 🀯

This method involves systems of equations.

Let d be the distance of @ahmadmangazap from @holovision
Let 2d be the distance of @ahmadmangazap from @jfang003

We use the distance formula to get the distance between any two points. The distance formula is

the distance is equal to the square root of the sum of the squares of the difference between the change in y and change in x

Using the distance formula and the two distance equations above, we get the two equations:

  • d^2 = (10 - x)^2 + (2 - y)^2
  • d^2 = x^2 - 20x + 100 + y^2 - 4y + 4
  • Equation 1: d^2 = x^2 - 20x + y^2 - 4y + 104
  • (2d)^2 = (3 - x)^2 + (6 - y)^2
  • (2d)^2 = x^2 - 6x + 9 + y^2 - 12y + 36
  • Equation 2: 4d^2 = x^2 - 6x + y^2 - 12y + 45

Since the d on Equation 1 is the same as d on Equation 2, we can substitute Equation 1 to Equation 2.

  • x^2 - 6x + y^2 - 12y + 45 = 4 * (x^2 - 20x + y^2 - 4y + 104)
  • x^2 - 6x + y^2 - 12y + 45 = 4x^2 - 80x + 4y^2 - 16y + 416
  • 3x^2 - 74x + 3y^2 - 4y + 371 = 0
  • x^2 - 74x/3 + y^2 - 4y/3 + 371/3 = 0
  • (x^2 - 74x/3 + 1369/9) + (y^2 - 4y/3 + 4/9) + 371/3 - (1369/9 + 4/9) = 0
  • (x + 37/3)^2 + (y - 2/3)^2 - 260/3 = 0
  • Equation 3: (x + 37/3)^2 + (y - 2/3)^2 = sqrt(260/3)^2

We can use any pair of x and y values satisfying Equation 3 for as long as y is greater than 6. The higher of @jfang003 and @holovision's positions has a y-intercept of 6.

Winner: none 🀯

1 HIVE shall be distributed to the previous winners in proportion to the number of days they correctly answered first.

This explanation took me about 3 hours to finish! 🀯🀯

Mentions: @ahmadmanga (@ahmadmangazap), @jfang003, @holovision, @jwynqc, and
@appukuttan66
Special mentions: @dbuzz, @chrisrice, @jancharlest 🀯

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Thanks for the hard work on this. Takes notes... Though I knew there would be more than one answer, I didn't know how exactly to come up with one.

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Thanks for appreciating my time and effort explaining how to get the correct answer! πŸ˜€

By the way, I distributed the 1 HIVE prize for today to the "previous days' winners" (previous day's winner rather - only @holovision so far). πŸ˜…

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