Astronomy Picture of the Day - IC 1318: The Butterfly Nebula in Gas and Dust
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Astronomy Picture of the Day: IC 1318: The Butterfly Nebula in Gas and Dust
Your current Rank (41) in the battle Arena of Holybread has granted you an Upvote of 13%
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I can't see the butterfly.
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Copying/Pasting content (full or partial texts, video links, etc.) with adding very little original content is frowned upon by the community. Repeated copy/paste posts could be considered spam. Spam is discouraged by the community and may result in the account being Blacklisted.
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@chrisrice
We have been receiving reports few times per week since a year ago for different accounts using @dbuzz to spam with mass plagiarism or copypasta spam farming rewards.
It must be at least the 20th time that we ask you to stop.
If you won't stop your scam app from incentivizing scams and farming, we may just blacklist it, all together and add all posts to the spaminator.
@hivewatchers,
Can you list the accounts here, so I can see and compare?
Your job is to moderate content on #HIVE @logic, and you do it all day.
Our job is much broader, has a lot more tasks than just moderation, and still, we had to build the tools for moderation.
I will tag our curator at @dbuzz to review the @podewils account, since I suspect you're right, it does look like plagiarism.
On another note . .
Do You (@logic) and @guiltyparties want to attend a discussion about this on @mspwaves and @crimsonclad's show? (if they agree to host us)
I can ask @nathansenn to join me in the group discussion.
TITLE = Free Speech Advocates vs. Hive Police
You can explain why HIVE "needs more centralized censorship", and I can explain why @dbuzz will build tools for USERS to censor what THEY don't want to see, instead of you deciding it for them.
I will also be sure to talk about your overly laxed view on what constitutes plagiarism, and I'll point out how even Disney used stories in the public domain.
In addition to that, it can be timed after our next project update (Tuesday), since we will be releasing @blocktrades' Decentralized Blocklists/Mutelists tools on D.Buzz then.
I told you. Switch your app to own token and let this dickhead dv everything
All in time, but it will be when our Dapp is already competitive, not just against blockchain Dapps, but against some of the Web 2.0 Dapps in terms of features and utility (this year).
Is that supposed to be a quote said by any of us?
If so then please provide evidence with screenshots of that quote proofing that we have said it.
You have once again nicely twisted mass plagiarism, farming, and spam on dBuzz that Hivewatchers have been dealing with on a daily basis into "censorship".
I have repeated this to you 4 times and I will repeat it for the 5th time. You confuse freedom of speech with freedom to scam and exploit the Hive ecosystem.
You know very well about mass abuse on dBuzz as you read all these posts/accounts and leave comments on these abuse posts/accounts.
This is not Steemit. Your app is just like scammy @dlike or @share2-steem. If you think that you can perpetuate mass.
You have been trying to impose your own rules on how it should things should work and have been repeatedly refusing to apply any changes to the app while playing fool the community and Hivewatchers.
We have suggested a lot of things such as minimum character input of 256 characters as mandatory and writing the guide in the app about plagiarism, etc. But, no you just like to have your spam & scam app be like it is.
We will not add a minimum character length as it would be less free than Web 2.0, and this is a Free Speech Dapp, not a @hivewatchers Dapp.
But your idea about writing a post against plagiarism is a good one, and I think I overlooked it.
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Your argument is nonsensical and ridiculous.
What does the minimum character input (of 256 characters) to prevent spam and junk posting have anything to do with someone expressing themselves freely... They can still express themselves freely.
And it would still not prevent mass plagiarism and scam that dbuzz incentivizes and enables.
But it would at least require the minimum effort in creating content. Just as ~Actifit has done for years.
You are also intentionally ignoring and allowing plagiarism/scam.
You know very well that these accounts and post spam with plagiarism or copypasta spam as you read these posts and spend time commenting on them.
I explained to you multiple times that wrote that it takes 2-3 seconds to perform the action of:
But you have refused to do so since dBuzz launched 12 months ago.
And if you have some issue with funding HW work, no one is stopping you from submitting your own proposal.
P.S. Good luck with getting along with your new buddy ctime/dicetime/mmmmkkkk311.
Well-known scammer and Steemit/Justin Sun shill who never did anything for Steemit and was just farming and exploiting it (besides being compulsive far-right racist, homophobe, and misogynist).
As a normal user I want to add my input: Having a minimum character limit won't remove spam and plagiarism, it will just make honest people want to share their points less...
I can understand your point about hive-farming, but shouldn't that be treated in case-to-case bases and not the platform as whole?
I agree with @logic in that Free Speech is not plagiarism & spam, but as far as I see, the spam in DBuzz is minimal and is only there by some accounts, and if those accounts were upvoted by @dbuzz account (which I think should be regulated more @chrisrice) hivewatchers option should be to blacklist those accounts, not the whole interface.
Well, these are just my thoughts... I hope MSPWaves thing happens if possible, the discussion will feel more official that way.
As a normal user I want to add my input: Having a minimum character limit won't remove spam and plagiarism, it will just make honest people want to share their points less...
I can understand your point about hive-farming, but shouldn't that be treated in case-to-case bases and not the platform as whole?
I agree with @logic in that Free Speech is not plagiarism & spam, but as far as I see, the spam in DBuzz is minimal and is only there by some accounts, and if those accounts were upvoted by @dbuzz account (which I think should be regulated more @chrisrice) hivewatchers option should be to blacklist those accounts, not the whole interface or its main account which clearly helps many honest people.
Well, these are just my thoughts... I hope MSPWaves thing happens if possible, the discussion will feel more official that way.
The full-time curator of @dbuzz is @iamraincrystal. @chrisrice said that he only oversees the job of other D.Buzz admins, he being the
ChiefHuman Resources Officer. Therefore, I think you should address your concerns to @iamraincrystal, who is assigned by @chrisrice to curate where she sees fit.Thanks for letting me know! Will refer to @iamraincrystal for this from now on!
@chrisrice is the main guy. He's overall in-charge. I'm sure it will be good if you course it through him 👍🏼👍🏼
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#GuiltyParties & @nathansenn have come to an agreement, or at least see things eye to eye @savvyplayer
I then offered to create a guide, with the help of @iamraincrystal, explaining how @dbuzz chooses what to curate (in general) , and I'll let GP review it before publishing
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I agree, the spam on D.Buzz is minimal, especially compared to other microblogging Dapps on other blockchains
I have found @iamraincrystal to be non-biased & impartial (more than most)
The only curating errors I've seen is w/images where it's unclear if it's the owner
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But it's impossible to curate every single Buzz completely perfectly
Nit picking each & every Buzz we curate isn't practical, but feedback still helps us improve
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The transcendental cat meme image looks like a good representation of those words. 🤨
Source: KnowYourMeme.com
@atma.love should see that. 👆
I strongly disagree w/your belief that #Spam is not Free Speech @ahmadmanga, since in general terms, it describes nuisance content that people don't like
And I am in favor of individuals choosing for themselves
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Hmmm, you're not completely wrong, but that's a harmful free speech... If D.Buzz. is totally okay with spam/plagiarism then I'm totally okay with Hive Watchers fighting our community.
Though I believe there is a middle ground... We just don't know where it is yet.
Me too, but people shouldn't be left alone after choosing harmful things... There's a reason laws against killing and drugs exist. Some bad things are harmful even for people who are doing them.
Now, I don't say this kind of Free Speech promoting is clearly wrong. I'm just saying that spam & plagiarism shouldn't be upvoted, and as much as we can we should help limit them.
There is a value in short-form content! I believe so!
I think the problem with Curation, and while I think we're doing a good job for now. I think DBuzz should be stricter with which buzzes they upvote. Like, allow short 3-80 characters posts but upvote them less, don't upvote one-image-no-text buzzes, (believe me, a short description can go a long way in making the post better.)
I'm okay with DBuzz allowing blacklisted spammers/plagiarizers posts to be viewed! I just don't want to let these copy/pasts farm HIVE. Too much of them, (an amount I don't currently see,) will harm HIVE as whole including DBuzz itself...
I'm not siding with Hivewatchers here, (a Downvote-war will just be lose-lose situation for both sides.) I'm talking about the value DBuzz could bring if Curation was a bit better.
What do you think? @chrisrice @savvyplayer @iamraincrystal @ond
By the way, I'm saying spam in this comment, but not everything that people think is spam is one: [-] I'm talking about posting the same things over-and-over, [-] posting many effortless buzzes just to farm HIVE, and [-] Meaningless comments like "Thanks" (and my favorite: "Congrats") without reasoning...
... These types of posts shouldn't be removed or blocked, that's free speech, but they shouldn't be upvoted either because the reward pool is limited and honest posts shouldn't compete with spam! As curator, what do you think? @iamraincrystal
These type of things should be blocked by YOU since you don't want to see them.
You have no authority to determine what other people see on D.Buzz and no one should have that authority minus extreme edge cases
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I really think you misunderstood @ahmadmanga's comment. There is a big difference between allowing (showing) spam and supporting (upvoting) spam. 🤨 @ahmadmangazap never said "block spam". 😑
Ahh, I think I did misunderstand or misread, unless you edited your post @ahmadmangazap.
But like you said @ahmadmangazap, I don't want to go on a censorship rampage since thats the Web 2.0 we are creating an escape for, and when the censorship starts, it often becomes a slippery slope.
We are on the same page then... Some of these are getting curated right now, I think that's the problem. That's why I said D.Buzz should be stricter in their Curation.
There will be filters by users, but will there be filters by tags on DBuzz?
Ah okay, tag me if you notice some of them getting curated by @dbuzz
Content that is solely someone else's, with nothing original added, should not be curated by @dbuzz
Posted via D.Buzz
Will do!!
Thanks so much, and sorry again for completely misreading what you said @ahmadmanga.
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For the record, @ahmadmangazap only edited his comment to remove the redundant bullets on his enumerated list. 🕵️♂️🤨
Thanks for clearing it up, I thought he understood my comment and still said that.
That is one of @chrisrice's serious moments. 😆😅
I'm glad we have @savvyplayer then, he just cleared what would have been a major misunderstanding between us @ahmadmanga
P.S. I have been working a bit extra these last few days, and I think the extra workload decreased my reading comprehension lol
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Take time to rest :) You'll come back stronger!
Almooooost, not yet lol
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Thanks for the 1 HBD! Maybe you can get more than that by winning at least 3 days in my week-long Math mini-contest for D.Buzz for this March 2021! 😅
As far as I know though, "spam" is a subjective term @savvyplayer @ahmadmangazap.
Yeah it is, that's why I listed the spam that objectively shouldn't be curated for the sake of DBuzz/HIVE as whole. I didn't say block them, I'm just saying the finite rewards should be given to buzzes that have more effort in them. (Or at least, seem to have more effort.)
Yeah, I agree with that 100%
But @dbuzz should not @iamraincrystal, but this mainly deals with edge cases, that are clearly extreme cases of "plagerism"
HW''s has called silly things plagiarism
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Blockchain is about Freedom, Decentrazation and Free Speech.
That's the use case Web3 Dapps, othewise stick with Web2.
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I believe that the "freedom of speech" you are promoting does not involve some accounts intentionally flooding the D.Buzz latest feed, either for reward farming or preventing other legitimate posts to be seen. 🤨
https://peakd.com/@savvyplayer/re-chrisrice-2021416t03025789z
If some accounts (whether bots or not) intentionally spam D.Buzz "under free speech" (like what happened a week ago) that is strongly disliked by everyone (except probably those that are jealous of D.Buzz), you might just change (even a little) your stance regarding spam. 🤨🤨
@ahmadmangazap
Please don't misunderstand me again here. 😨 I did not say block all spam, but only those that are obvious spam (still fits in the description of spam). 😒
Spam and plagiarism are prevalent. I the last few weeks alone, Hivewatchers have dealt with 20-30 accounts posting plagiarism or copypasta spam in dBuzz.
chrisrice is very aware of this but has been refusing to do due diligence since it started a year ago in March 2020. He has also been refusing to add improvements to the app. This app is basically a copy of dlike/share-2-steem that were scamming and spamming Steemit.
It doesn't make sense. It would actually be the opposite. It would incentivize honest engagement in the platform by creating valuable content with some effort, adding value to the platform not just spamming the blockchain with useless spam.
Hive ecosystem is not Twitter. Hive is something between a blogging platform and Medium with a bit of Reddit (commenting) and the content is rewarded here. Neither Twitter nor Facebook pays you for your content.
I think your comment there is a duplicate of your own comment you replied to (https://peakd.com/@ahmadmanga/re-logic-qqc3ux). 🕵️♂️🤔
We already published these two articles:
Tips on writing for D.Buzz, What to Buzz about...
https://dbuzz.link/d10e
Proper Ways to Cite sources in Micro-Blogging
https://dbuzz.link/4120
And are working as fast as we can . . our emphasis has been on software development
Posted via D.Buzz
Having guides (which I know are not rules) for proper posting on D.Buzz would not prevent everyone from making inappropriate (spammy, plagiarized, and most especially farming) and illegal posts, no matter how great they are and how often you share them. 🤨
And our software development efforts cost much and out of OUR pockets than the Hive Proposal that you receive for @hivewatchers.
Posted via D.Buzz
You live off a HIVE proposal and sell $HIVE to make ends meat . . so if anyone has real skin in the game, it's @dbuzz, not you.
Our skin in the game is to add value, and onboard new users.
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D.Buzz should indeed help reduce plagiarism and spam by encouraging users to give the source of the content, particularly pictures, that the poster either does not own, or owns but is already posted somewhere else. Moreover, to reduce "reward farming", users should be encouraged to put their own description (which does not have to be long) of whatever image, quote, or video they posted.
I know that these are upcoming features for D.Buzz, though it looks like there is the pressure of needing to implement these features faster. I acknowledge that D.Buzz developers are busy with other tasks, but I believe they should implement the mentioned features faster.
@ahmadmanga
@ond
Hi @savvyplayer,
I agree with these features being needed but I won't cave to the pressure of @hivewatchers when it's clearly us who have more skin in the game than them.
They can wait.
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6 figures in USD is at least $100,000 (or at least ₱5,000,000 in @chrisrice's country's national currency). 💰
While it is clear that you have invested a lot for D.Buzz, why did you mention them getting about $3,000 per month to do their job? 🤔
They get about $3,000 HBD a month from the Hive Development fund.
I don't think it's just them that want those features implemented - I personally want them too. 😐 I believe that when D.Buzz users (especially new ones) see the reference box for the link which is optional and does not count towards the 280-character limit for buzz, there would be less plagiarized posts. 🤔
Just to follow-up @savvyplayer @jarvie,
We ended up having real abuse on D.Buzz, in terms of a bot-farm joining @dbuzz, and a bot-spam-attack a few days later. Both were handled on the front-end level and via Decentralized Blacklists within 24 hours @savvyplayer.
In addition to that, we downvoted all the bot-farming accounts, showing that we DO combat abuse.
#Logic and #HiveWatchers was giving us hell over what we later found out was a mere 2% of our users, but when we got attacked with REAL and unquestionable abuse, it was us (the @dbuzz Team) who handled it, and via Decentralized Blacklists and Security Features within 24 hours.
I'm still looking for the posts where #HiveWatchers or #Logic called us a Spam Dapp, degrading us to the likes of what he called DLike and Share2Steem, but I haven't been able to find it.
Here is a screenshot of their Discord where #Logic requires someone to post an apology, 31 days in a row on their #HIVE account:
That's way to authoritarian for my taste and IMO it's a bad content moderation / appeal policy for HIVE.
Hi guys. I'm not defending spam and plagiarism but wanted to post my humble opinion. I am a moderator on Uptrennd and really know how annoying it is to fight spam and plagiarism and spend a few hours every day doing it manually. We don't have any bots. Also I am not an employee but volunteer.
I want to ask if everyone who uses d.buzz is considered a spammer. Asked this question on Discord too and was told no. But after reading the comments here, I'm not sure anymore.
I discovered Dbuzz last week and have used it a few times and really like it. And they have a character limit, I think it's 280. Not sure why 256 characters would make a difference.
I use Twitter a lot, so I really like d.buzz and it's one of the most friendly communities for someone like me who don't know everything about Hive or Steem. They are the first to answer any questions. And I have tried asking on many places, some of them with much larger userbase.
So can you please keep the communication channel open because I see that the situation between you is not the best.
There must be a way to block, mute or penalize in another way the people who abuse it. I always wanted to use Share2Steem and Dlike but never did because I was afraid that I will get on a blacklist or something. I am more about sharing news articles than writing long posts. But I do this on Twitter.
I was thinking that if users are afraid to use Steem and Hive, it goes against everything the platforms stand for. On the other hand I see a lot of spam comments on Steem for example and they are never downvoted. Small accounts like me are probably afraid of starting a downvote war. But high level accounts?
I even reported 2 accounts yesterday to a few high level curators and only one replied saying that yes it is spam but nothing can be done. Finally nikv on Hivewatchers group took action.
But try to understand the Dbuzz side too. They have this little Project that is promising and very user friendly, especially for new users. They must feel like David against Goliath.
I am not one of those who say Free Speech is above everything else. I really hate, fake news, disinformation, terrorism etc but there must be a middle way in this case.
This comment got very long. I am just a simple user so maybe I am missing something, and have not been using the platforms for some months now. But just wanted to let you know the opinion of someone who understands both sides. I hope I don't make any enemies here with the comment 🙏. Thank you for reading this (if you made it to the end 😄)
@chrisrice @hivewatchers @logic
@hivewatchers is disingenuious imo, and reminds me of the Government's ploy of saying something is for people's protection when in fact, it's to increase the size and power of Government.
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Oh man... And I'm trying to make peace with them 😄😄😄 And at least they are not downvoting every comment of yours like ... you know who.
Ummm, they are one in the same?
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Making peace with a tyrant does not work or help.
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Btw, Free Speech combats misinformation since it allows the scrutiny of all ideas view the free flow of information.
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I personally don't think that users getting into centralized blacklists because of plagiarism and reward farming has something to do with freedom of speech.
I do agree that blacklists should be decentralized and opt-in, but when the blacklisters downvote posts from some users because of posting something available somewhere else and wasn't linked to source and without own description, I would just ignore them. Anyway, if the user who was blacklisted becomes "good" (makes plagiarism-free and useful posts) and wasn't removed from the blacklist, then I would do think of that as a problem with them.
@ahmadmanga
@ond
Well, you are free to think that, but we remain a Free Speech platform and do not censor text.
How much more for .
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A few sentences that someone said was taken from their article or something they said @savvyplayer
But again, we will create a culture of citing sources, etc.
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I did not say that short bits of information is (always) plagiarism. There is what people call "reward farming", where the user does not put noticeable effort in publishing posts, and just hoping that their posts get upvotes (unless the poster declines payout). 🤨
Standards about what is not allowed on a #FreeSpeech platform shouldn't be up to interpretation, it should be blatantly obvious
Case in point, a "Noticeable" effort to you, might not be a noticeable effort to ME, etc.
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Okay. 😐
Case in point, you should at least agree that there are some posts which are made for reward farming that are obvious. 🤨
The idea is not to have a character limit but the opposite - add a mandatory character field requiring to add personal thought to the content that is cross-posted (with a minimum of 256 characters).
So there is valuable, original content added/personal thought.
Just like Actifit has had for years (They actually have minimum word count so it is even more requiring).
Hive ecosystem is NOT Twitter. Hive ecosystem frontends are something between a blogging platform and Medium with a bit of Reddit (commenting) and the content is rewarded here. Neither Twitter nor Facebook pays you for your content.
Creating a spam app does not give a license to spam. The content of these posts is treated the same way as if it was posted without the app.
So far it has been nothing more but an epicenter of plagiarism and/or copypasta spam with zero original content added.
If it teachers anything to new users is that spam and effortless link posting are rewarded in the Hive ecosystem.
It has nothing to do with free speech.
😐
@podewils
Please give a link to the source, so that interested viewers can see the original (higher quality) picture and related pictures. Please add a longer description (even a slightly longer one) too. That will significantly reduce the "heat" on you by you-know-who. 😨
@chrisrice
It would be cool if @podewils started the 30 Day Challenge by D.Buzz
Not mandatory, but it might give him some good ideas . . in addition to that, it's recommended that he set rewards to 0 for non-original content
Posted via D.Buzz
I think it would be cool (at least for the majority of people on D.Buzz) for everyone else to start the 30-Day Challenge by D.Buzz.🤨
I'm just dropping by here after a month the buzz was made on D.Buzz. Looks like it got 78 comments, so this is the 79th comment on the post. It looks like the picture triggered the "Butterfly Effect" wherein a single seemingly-ordinary post triggered a cascade of heated comments! 😅
@chrisrice, @ahmadmanga, @ond