Are you prepared to the need of taking the covid jab every year for th ...
Are you prepared to the need of taking the covid jab every year for the next several years? I hope you do, and Johnson & Johnson too.
https://www.rt.com/usa/515079-johnson-johnson-covid19-vaccine/
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This isn't about saving lives or helping people, it's about making money, acquiring more power & controlling the masses IMO.
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I disagree. This is about saving lives, tens of thousands of lives, while making money.
Yeah, and that's okay, we don't have to agree.
That would be tyranny, and possibly genocide.
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I am against mandatory vaxxing only for those that agree to live isolated. If they have a social life they should be compelled to vaccinate.
What?
The WHO already said that the vaccine won't stop people from "spreading it", according to them.
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My rationale is not based on US Constitution or any other law, but on reason and science alone. Your right of individual freedom is not bigger or more important than the right of others freedom. All rights must be taken into account.
Again..
When you say "science" you are NOT referring to the scientific method but a list of ideas spread in the mainstream media, through universities & #BigTech
All of it is lead and most likely paid for (in some way shape or form) by the Government.
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I am referring to the scientific consensus that can be verified by the positions of the world renowned Universities regarding this pandemic.
Well, the Nobel Peace Prize is World Renowned and they awarded Adolf Hitler during his time, and the US Press was on his side too.
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I never saw the scientific consensus supporting Hitler or any political party, all I have ever seen is scientists having their particular political positions. Again, science is not an opinion, science is the scientific consensus obtained through the scientific method.
Umm science is NOT a consensus.
It is called the Scientific Method, and not all scientists agree on #Covid19 but you seem to trust the side of the US Government, #BigTech & Universities and w/out skepticism
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The consensus is obtained through the method. If you cannot refute the consensus using the method, the consensus keeps valid as a scientific truth.
It has been refuted already, but the people who refute it:
Did you know:
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The consensus refutation must pass through the method, be pair reviewed by scientists of the same area, be published in scientific periodicals etc. A mere anedoctic evidence is not sufficient.
Umm, its public info that the virus hasn't been isolated yet (if ever)
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But to clarify, I'm happy you are sharing your ideas here --> this is what #FreeSpeech platforms are for 😀
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Me too, i like to exchange ideas. That is what social networks are for.
Thank you for being kind 🙂
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You too.
I hope that more people here will be able to have strong disagreements, but still he friends.
That is key IMO and is lacking on Web 2.0 sites due to rigged algorithms that seem to encourage hate and even hate speech
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I agree. Nowadays the social network does not promote debates, but reinforcement of ideas, even when they are scientificslly wrong. That is why there are so many conspiracy theories prospering on the internet.
If conspiracy theories = Anything outside of the official narrative.
The official narrative is full of propaganda, and it's not for your own good IMO
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Conspiracy theories = extraordinary claims based on anecdotal evidence circulating around the internet without any independent third party verification of its veracity. They prosper nowadays like a cockroach plague.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” Carl Sagan
Covid-19 being a #scamdemic is not an extrodinary claim if you look at the evidence.
The rate of Covid-19 infections followed the flu season pattern when placed on a chart
Flu infections in Canada fell in sync with Covid increases, and they stopped tracking flu cases there
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That is not what the Universities and epidemiologists are saying around the world.
You can read the stats directly from Government websites.
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The stats show 1% death rate and 400k deaths in US alone.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Again, that's what this book:
Is about . . in order to think like a scientist, you'd have to know what qualifies as a Covid death https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-22/why-the-covid-daily-death-toll-doesnt-chart-deaths-in-a-single-day
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I don't trust statistics, I trust science through the studies made by trustworthy Universities.
Ummm, You just gave me a statistic saying that 1% of the people infected die? :/
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I gave you scientific studies made by specialists in Universities.
It included a statistic of 1%, and you never included what the formula they used for determining a Covid-19 Death was, which if you had a scientific mind, or even an analytical mind, you'd be interested in knowing.
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Yes I showed you the link but you didn' read. I'll show it here again. I hope you read the link this time:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
I just visited that link and read it, but I don't see the formula they used for determining Covid 19 Deaths anywhere on that site.
From what I understand, different countries use different formulas, but many countries, like the UK...
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... Use a formula where any death, that happens within 28 days of a positive PCR test, gets classified as a Covid 19 Death.
And this is just 1 aspect twisted data
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I recommend you to read some material coming from specialists in Universities regarding that subject instead of "reinventing the wheel".
Ummm, unless you know the formula of how they determined each Covid 19 Death, all of that fluff, those extra words, studies, etc. are irrelevant.
The original SARS had a 9% death rate & TB has a 10% death rate.
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Just look for the studies being done in the Universities about the subject. That is why specialists exist in the first place. It is impossible to everybody to know everything.
Yeah, but it's common sense that "specialists" should NOT count any death within 28 days of a positive PCR test as a Covid death, regardless of other variables.
I use specialists too, but I consult with more than one.. I compare them and still actually think.
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I don't know the specifics about the criteria they use to count a death as being from covis or not. I advise you to look this information from some specialist in the area instead of blindly believing in conspiracy theories of the internet.
Well here's a little FYI, direct from UK's Govermment website
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-uk-wide-methodology-agreed-to-record-covid-19-deaths
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Send your questions to the UK Government specialists. I am sure they will teach you a lot if you are really open to learn.
Appeal to Authority
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Is Oxford University a good enough source for You?
#BBCNews
https://twitter.com/garethicke/status/1361976067511250945
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Ask them if you doubt them. I don't, I only use logic and common sense. I just trust them better than conspiracists.
I don't think you use logic or common sense.
You may think the same about me.
But it's okay, we can think that about each other and still be friendly online 😊
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Is marked as a #Covid19 death. The people behind those stats are either idiots, or their corrupt with an agenda.
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I don't care if covid is a single cause or not, I just care that lots of people are dying from a new disease.
Umm, it doesn't mean it's a single cause.
Still gets marked as a Covid death . . don't believe me, read
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That is not what the hospitals are doing all over the world. Somebody needs to be dumb to believe that.
Ummm no, it is what they are doing.
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-22/why-the-covid-daily-death-toll-doesnt-chart-deaths-in-a-single-day
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Sorry I don't believe that all hospitals around the world are lying together about covid. If you do believe this, good luck for you with this rationale.
It's not all hospitals, it's coverage of all hospitals in the mainstream media, which is controlled by a small group of people.
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Yes, I have seen notices all over the world about crowded hospitals. In Europe patients from Italy had to go to Germany for treatment. And here in Brazil patients from Manaus had to be transferred for other cities for treatment.
Did you go to the hospitals in person to see for yourself?
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Here's some stats @discernente and you can confirm via research.
https://twitter.com/DrMadej/status/1360283765956878341?s=19
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You are free only to the point that your freedom does not harm others. Your rights end when others rights begin.
In that case, YOU are harming others by advocating mandatory vaccines for people who do not self-isolate
Over 500 people have died from it & many more have life altering side effects
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That is your conclusion, not the conclusion of science. Science says that vaccinating is necessary for the common good. I follow reason and science alone, not personal desires or opinions.
No, you are not following the Scientific Method and the people you trust are not either
Otherwise they wouldn't be using PCR tests as an attempt to diagnose disease.
But thank you @discernente, we will likely be disagreeing on this for a while, its okay to disagree 😀
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