CROWD FACTS REQUEST: At Donald Trumps "Infamous Injecting Bleach Presser" Donald Trump advocated for use of Bleach as a disinfectant to treat COVID-19.
Original Source: https://www.theblaze.com/news/alyssa-farah-birx-bleach-trump
Original Source archived: https://archive.ph/rIzsA
In this clip, it is referenced plainly that the President mused about injecting bleach. Dr. Birx did not dispute the interviewer, and in fact nodded when she reference that claim. Did President Trump advocate for use of Bleach internally to treat COVID-19?
I believe he used the word "disinfectant". There are many disinfectants besides bleach. Hydrogen peroxide is one that is produced naturally by the body, and used to treat COVID-19 through a nebulizer. Iodine is another. I heard Colloidal silver has been was discussed in reference to COVID-19.
President Biden claimed he said this, and that claim is fact-checked at https://archive.ph/6Nw2R .
Since this issue is being claimed as if it is true, despite this fact-check evaluating Biden's claim as "Mostly False", maybe it needs to be addressed. Dr. Birx seems to think he advocated for bleach injections.
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Thanks, that's great. It's good to have both the factcheck and factcheckrequest tags in a request post, but as a minimum we need to have factcheckrequest in there.
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Did this come up again recently or are we talking about years ago?
this was a recent interview. I thought better of Dr. Birx than that she would let something she doesn't believe to be true go without correcting it. Funny how that is just what she said she did when she didn't do anything to dispute a claim she said Trump made. In her experience, does disinfectant equal bleach? And she still believes Trump was advocating for bleach? So, is it fair to say he was?
i think what he was perhaps referring to was Chlorine Dioxide (aka MMS, CD, CDS & CDH) which can (using the correct procedure and doseage) be used intravenously. In 2012 i was trained how to this.
That is very rarely required though. CD can reverse the vast majority if diseases and is usually taken my mouth.
i'm sure Trump didn't know much about it though or he would have been able to be more specific.
Oh, and yes, it does cure "the symptoms known as" COVID.
@crowdfacts #crowdfacts
I always feel a mental ping when there is a questionable assumption being taken. Don't we often get our facts from collatoral statements like this? I also see news reports, from outlets that must know better, neglecting answer obvious questions. For instance, Israel rejects Hamas counter-offer for peace. What was the offer Hamas rejected? First report I heard didn't even mention Israel's offer. Even if their offer was "give us your heads and your people will live", it should be included.
This is why I liked the crowd-fact format because it is possible to micro-investigate things like this and be digestible. If I do more posts like this then I will try to spam the communities and such, unless that is considered bad nettiquette here.
One has to be careful too with crowd "facts". i think a "Trusted Reputation" score for members of the crowd taking part in / voting within a consensus meeting to determine what is fact, would be very valuable to getting achieving accuracy. The reputation score, which could increase partly by due to knowledge tests on the subject in question being passed, could be used to give access to voting and/or weight the power of the vote.
This goes back to that unfinished series by blocktrades about a network of trust. Setting your own weights for people is where I'd go. You can even bring in proprietary algorithms if you like, bringing in something like Editors Picks where you get to pick the editor. This is going beyond fact checks, but same idea. If you trust the take that X has with their fact-checking or that from another platform, this is only the top level of a fact check. Important to have open discussion in that context if one wants to dig deeper. Like a medical study with an abstract, sometimes you find the data did not really support the conclusion.
I think crowd facts is missing that top-level where you learn the truth score.
Yes, i did have a brief discussion with blocktrades about a year ago when i read one of his posts on this subject.
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Anonymous community consensus discussion? Interesting. I'll try to participate in something like what you describe if I can. Do you have anything specific?
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