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Those who have a lot of skin in the game have no choice but being positive.

This is only partly true - they can be negative but have the incentive to actually do something or change something. Those without skin will be negative and have no reason to do otherwise.

less skin in the game who can afford being more neutrally agnostic & skeptics.

I disagree - because if you haven't noticed, they still have desire for outcomes - they are definitely not impartial.

Yeah! maybe because 'negativity' (or defensive pessimism as I like to call it) if it is specially exerted with reasonably strong and solid arguments of logic and critical thinking, always will tend to sound way more convincing than any lightweight optimism and blind faith.

I don't think so. I believe it is because are hardwired with warning mechanisms and the negative brings out our fears. The people who often speak in the negatives speak with conviction however and that can convince people - no matter how little knowledge is there to back it up. Remember that politicians speak with conviction, as do those who support them - no matter how insane the ideas may be.

More often than not. Negativity or 'Defensive Pessimism' is not more than the tangible result of a great deal of very accurate & attent observations to the details and vivid past experiences. :)

But, it is a personal account of the world that might not apply to others who have a different set of skills and wills. The people who are the most negative about Hive are also the ones that have done - just what they wanted here. Funny, isn't it?



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This is only partly true - they can be negative but have the incentive to actually do something or change something. Those without skin will be negative and have no reason to do otherwise.

Yes, that's obviously the evident logical mindset. How could it be otherwise?
And never forget that those who truly can't do something to change something, too often is for lack of financial or logistic resources and not necessarily for lack of desires.

I disagree - because if you haven't noticed, they still have desire for outcomes - they are definitely not impartial.

Every step you take toward any direction is done only because you expect to arrive to somewhere. If not, ¿why bother? So, it's not that agnostics, skeptics or defensive pessimists have desires for any specific outcomes. They are actually way more impartial than the rest. The only difference is that they are supremely more attentive to every detail in their surroundings and in consequence usually are a lot more equanimous and unruffled in their observations and appreciation of the true reality.

I don't think so. I believe it is because are hardwired with warning mechanisms and the negative brings out our fears.

Nope! no fears at all. Just higher awareness of the most minimal events that happens in their environment. What makes them way more precautious of where put foot in the next step.

The people who often speak in the negatives speak with conviction however and that can convince people - no matter how little knowledge is there to back it up.

Yep! everyone 'speaks with conviction' each time that they open their mouths. Even the most supine ignorants, superstitious, unconscious and liars. };)

Remember that politicians speak with conviction

Bah! all of them are just a bunch of liars with personal interests. Just like everyone who follow and support them. Otherwise, they would only be lousy & noisy amateur politicians without the most minimal chance to plant a foot anywhere.

But, it is a personal account of the world that might not apply to others who have a different set of skills and wills.

That's exactly the key in this debate and the Gordian Knot to untie here. Everyone will see the world according their own position, perspective, resources (intellectual, ethical, moral & financial) and their different set of skills and wills among many other thangs. isn't it?

The people who are the most negative about Hive are also the ones that have done - just what they wanted here. Funny, isn't it?

Yup! and I'm afraid in the name of true authenticity. This way is how it will be for many years to come. Until.... well, I'm sure you know the end. ;)

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too often is for lack of financial or logistic resources and not necessarily for lack of desires.

Pretty much everyone can change their behavior. When it comes to Hive, people can do differently. post differently, engage differently - without a cost. Some choose not to. Freedom on the blockchain.

The only difference is that they are supremely more attentive to every detail in their surroundings and in consequence usually are a lot more equanimous and unruffled in their observations and appreciation of the true reality.

I call BS on this. People regardless of positive or negative outlook focus on the bits that interest them and generally, what supports their position. The skeptics can very well live in echo chambers too.

Nope! no fears at all. Just higher awareness of the most minimal events that happens in their environment. What makes them way more precautious of where put foot in the next step.

Again, I disagree. The people that call themselves skeptics do not have some higher level of awareness, they just have a different perspective. It isn't a superpower, it is a preference.

Bah! all of them are just a bunch of liars with personal interests. Just like everyone who follow and support them. Otherwise, they would only be lousy & noisy politicians without the most minimal chance to plant a foot anywhere.

Sounds like most people, skeptic or not, doesn't it?

Everyone will see the world according their own position, perspective, resources (intellectual, ethical, moral & financial) and their different set of skills and wills among many other thangs.

Lay with dogs, rise with fleas. People gather in groups and feed on information that supports their world view - no matter how twisted or disconnected from reality their view may be.

Everything ends. Some people never get started.

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Pretty much everyone can change their behavior. When it comes to Hive, people can do differently. post differently, engage differently - without a cost. Some choose not to. Freedom on the blockchain.

True. But many have seen and experienced too much already. And now they know that there is not enough time left available to keep changing directions as a mad weathercock to please anyone windy whims in detriment of authenticity. They did already get sick and tired of doing that before. And now are too old and away of their time as to be unwilling to continue feeding the charade. They are not youngsters with current great family responsabilities, evident hopes and an apparently promising future like you anymore. Today, they are not as flexible to bend as before and if they try, most probably will fracture and break. :)

I call BS on this. People regardless of positive or negative outlook focus on the bits that interest them and generally, what supports their position. The skeptics can very well live in echo chambers too.

Yep! no surprise you don't agree and you believe that people regardless of positive or negative outlook focus on the bits that interest them and generally, what supports their position. ¡That's true! But as I said before, you are still a youngster with a good reserve of energy/flexibility and current ambitions and adult responsabilities. That's the logical mindset of youth. But many have already walked through there. Others still have to experience it. And a good bunch are already well ahead and away of that early path. Just wait a bit. And you will catch the agnostic and skeptical drift in a not so distant future. I can assure you.

Again, I disagree. The people that call themselves skeptics do not have some higher level of awareness, they just have a different perspective. It isn't a superpower, it is a preference.

Again, no surprise you don't agree. Clearly agnostics & skeptics do not have some higher level of awareness or superpowers. What they certainly have is an usually more accute sense of equanimity and attention to the details as to avoid being dragged prematurely by blind enthusiasms. And if they happen to also be old, this equanimity and attention to the details then gets accentuated and exacerbated by the fuel provided by the experience. Experiences which some tend to call wisdom.

Sounds like most people, skeptic or not, doesn't it?

Yup! liars can be bought at a hundred for a penny in the popular street markets out there in your closest alley. :D

Lay with dogs, rise with fleas.

The key of success here is being a smart dog, train well the fleas and set up and launch a traveling circus of attractive flea's acrobacies. :p

People gather in groups and feed on information that supports their world view - no matter how twisted or disconnected from reality their view may be.

Yes, people tends to gather in groups and feed on information that supports their world view. Until they are free to get rid of the customary imposed 'society' responsabilities and then they finally have the chance to know better their true inner selves as to have the joy to observe the messy world from a happy solitude perspective in a deeply peaceful hermit life like an authentic fakir. LoL

Everything ends. Some people never get started.

Undoubtedly!!

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