Is BITCOIN a world changer or a deep state honeypot in disguise?

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I warmly enjoy reading zerohedge articles and their comments, it reminds me about legacy social media, where it seems that everyone has firmly held convictions about every topic, and they don't mind fighting about it in public.

Whether the issue is China, Natural Gas, Israel or Russia, President Joe Brandon or even technical topics like Silver prices or the VIX, you can expect to enjoy some great shilling of deeply divided viewpoints in the comment section.

But nothing beats the crypto articles.

I know the bull case, I am involved in cryto for more than 4 years after all. So its mostly the 'no-coiner' bear shills that interest me. Its fully of interest to me the deep divide on the public sentiment on display, and I wanted to take some time this morning to review both sides of the (bit)coin.

Bitcoin is the best

Surprising to me at first is the lack of alt coin shills, there are some shilling ETH, but its funny (as someone quite involved with the ~250 ranked coin) how few people mention any other piece of crypto technology.

For ease of research, I've decided to pull all examples from a recent article entitled Crypto Slide The Result Of A "87%-Off" Binance Fat Finger.


The positive case for bitcoin generally rests on 3 premises, that it is 1 - secure, 2 - new revolutionary tech and 3 - adoption is increasing.


Bitcoin is the worst

The arguments against bitcoin are a bit more numerous, but I will attempt to identify and sum them up for you here.

Bitcoin is fake (digital) and gold is better


Most people on Zerohedge agree, the dollar is dying, but one of the main disagreements is whether GOLD or BITCOIN is the answer. The comments on zerohedge heavily favor gold, and one of the reasons is that Bitcoin is 'just' 1s and 0s.

The fact that gold (and silver) appear to be heavily manipulated to the downside for years doesn't seem to matter, since 'gold is better'.


Bitcoin is a ponzi and will collapse to zero before long.


Who is the most nonsensical - he who plays a rigged game knowing its rigged, or he who hoards digital assets? Surely the central bank scheme is a ponzi and, to give the argument its due, bitcoin remains to be seen if it is a ponzi, after all there are a lot of early bitcoins that haven't moved in years.

Bitcoin is inferior to Facebook's Diem


I guess this guy has never heard of HIVE/HBD, but not withstanding other coins like LTC which I send all over the world for a penny, I think this is a reasonable argument to make - what good is this tech that many governments are trying to ban when a 'better' one is about to come out from 'global trusted leader' facebook?

Here's a response on the comment:


Okay perhaps not the most elegant response, but basically, I don't trust Facebook, I'll never use their tech. Here's the rebuttal:


I think, taken to its logical conclusion, this is one of the weaker arguments against bitcoin, but for subtle reasons. Sure Facebook could use Bitcoin technology in their Diem, but if they were to fork bitcoin why wouldn't they just use bitcoin? And for any of the parts they do use, like say 'blocks', they will surely add in new parts that will make Diem a centralized database controlled by facebook, and we have already seen how eager facebook is to please governments around the world.

So let's move on.

Broken Promises to Greater Fools


Blockchain and Bitcoin hasn't changed the world yet, so it never will. We gave it a few years, but since my text messages aren't on the bitcoin network, and I can't yet pay the babysitter in crypto, this is all just a failed experiment, in fact a scam.


The only use for Bitcoin is to sell it higher to a Greater Fool - get out while you can!

Its a bubble!


The price is inflated, and will crash back to tulip bulb prices any day now.

Its so volatile you'll lose sleep!


This is a real concern, as checking crypto prices can become an addiction. I would counter that this is prevalent for day traders and stocker traders of all kinds - if you are going to invest your money learn how to size your positions correctly as not to affect your health.

Just buy Stonks!


Of course if its all about the money, why don't you just buy stocks? Could it be the debt-laden companies have inflated valuations with enormous P/E or CAPE ratios?

Bitcoin is a Deep State Honey Trap

The last concern was clearly on display in a different article entitled Peter Thiel: Here's Where I Would Look For Bitcoin-Creator Satoshi


This honestly is the criticism that gives me the most pause. It is possible that Bitcoin was created by the deep state, and there is some evidence to suggest it played a hand in at least the conceptual realization of these technologies. How this will play out in the end, I do not know. Will trackable digital currencies like bitcoin lead to outcomes that favor insiders and deep state plans? I don't know that either.

Take some time to read through the concerns about Bitcoin, which ones seem valid to you? I would love to read your response in the comments.

Let's take some time to retest our education level about these technologies, and there is no better way than staring face-first into the criticisms. And if you are ever bored - find a Zerohedge crypto article and load up the comments section - enjoy!

Freedom and Friendship!


I can imagine Bitcoin being yet another ritual of the elites, for control and power. Much of its secrecy during its creation speaks for a team of cypher punks from the 80s/90s, financed by intelligence money. I would go as far as looking at the first Bitcoin block on 1/3/2009 and check the time to important astrotgeology events. 101 months on the day before the Golden Gate of Osiris, the central black hole of our galaxy, moved to a new degree on the ecliptic (every 72y). 101 symbolizes a portal between the master number 11 and equals "greed" in gematria. Elon Musk was born exactly 101 months after the first man on the moon. Now he brings Bitcoin and us to the moon. Also, Bitcoins 2017 ath happened on 12/17, the day the Sun is aligned with the Golden Gate. This December will be 11 years after the GG day, which happened exactly 11 months before 11/11/11.

Whoa.....i can't tell if you are being serious or this is pure FUD. But being a FOMO investor I will just trust your research and sell sell sell. Or are you asking me to buy??

I am asking you to don't give a fuck about anything I have ever written or said. ;-)

Nice try at reverse psychology mate. Double negative is a freaking buy trigger for me!!

And if you are ever bored - find a Zerohedge crypto article and load up the comments section - enjoy!

I might have to do that. I don't think I have ever checked them out but it looks like a place where you can get a laugh. On a side note, I think both gold and BTC will do well but gold tends to not move much due to the manipulation. So I obviously go for the mining companies and play around with a bit of options to earn some extra change.

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Crypto being developed by #satoshi to save humanity is a cool bedtime story, but there's really no way to prove it.

On the other side of the coin, it's very easy to prove Banking Firms invest in crypto and people like Bill 5ates have patents for social credit style apps that reward people crypto. Also you can prove how there are one or two accounts doing HUGE price manipulation of BTC.

The idea that crypto will save us is unprovable and a dangerous logical fallacy.

At the end of the day we do have a bit of power with investing in projects we trust like #weedcash. I highly doubt Richardcrill is trying to take over the word🤣Then again, are people like us who are crypto enthusiasts working for the system just like people working a 9-5 job?! It's something to consider.

Bang, I did it again... I just rehived your post!