RE: The secret of motivation. Part 1. “$” vs. “for fun”. #1 “Candle problem"

over 3 years ago

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You can use  for underlined stuff (I don't think there's a markdown equivalent).

Amusingly when I was doing the candle problem in my head before continuing to read I was wondering if the box was strong enough to hold up the candle and if it was okay to destroy the wall with the thumb tacks and then trying to figure out a method of attaching the box to the wall with the candle in it without damaging the wall and then questioning whether it was really absolutely necessary to attach the box with the candle to the wall XD

_{I don't overthink things at all nope not me}

Well, I think I'm starting to understand the money motivation thing a little better now (I can understand the obsession with money seeing as it seems to be needed for everything, otherwise I just find it a real nuisance at best and unnecessary hindrance at worst for that exact reason).

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@alexbiojs 64

over 3 years ago (Edited)

yes, I guess not everything is clear in the "Candle problem" description I provided in the post.

I had similar questions when I tried to solve the problem for the first time.
... if it was okay to destroy the wall with the thumb tacks,... etc.

And I didn't solve it by myself. Only after I saw the solution.

the original problem has been modified by other researches.
just in case, here's the original problem (as per Duncker, K, 1945):

We experimented with all sorts of objects in daily use (e.g., boxes, pliers, etc.), which were first claimed in their usual
function (FJ and then, within the same problem-situation, for a new, unusual function (F2). The crucial object was
each time to be selected as the suitable tool out of a great number of objects which lay in confusion on a table.

The "box problem:" On the door, at the height of the eyes, three small candles are to
be put side by side ("for visual experiments"). On the table lie, among many other objects.
a few tacks and die crucial objects: three little pasteboard boxes (about the size of an
ordinary matchbox, differing somewhat in form and color and put in different places).
Solution: with a tack apiece, the three boxes are fastened to the door, each to serve as
platform for a candle. In the setting a.p., die three boxes were filled with experimental
material: in one there were several thin little candles, tacks in another, and matches in die
third. In w.p., the three boxes were empty. Thus F,: "container"; F»: "platform" (on which to set things).

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"You can use   for underlined stuff.."

tried it.
STEMGEEKS shows the message:
"Disable side-by-side editor
Please remove the following HTML elements from your post: "

it seems that neither STEMGEEKS not any other interface like PeakD actually allows to underline the text.
but anyway, that's not really important.

"I can understand the obsession with money seeing as it seems to be needed for everything, otherwise I just find it a real
nuisance at best and unnecessary hindrance at worst for that exact reason"

nicely said.

What do you think, could we one day get rid of this money interface used to decide how resources should be used,
and create an environment where there's no need for the money, the world where people would manage the Earth's resources
without money and politics. That's what J.Fresco suggests to people with his Venus project.
https://www.thevenusproject.com/

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@ryivhnn 71

over 3 years ago

I use peakd to write that comment with that code in it. I used peakd all the time. Apparently <ins></ins> is meant to work as well but that doesn't do anything on peakd.

There's also a possibility that it only works in comments but that seems kinda dumb.

I'm assuming @thevenusproject that's here is that Venus Project but looks like they haven't posted in a while. It's theoretically possible (because most things are theoretically possible) but currency is required to make the type of economies we have work and it seems most people can't fathom any other type of economy or the world working in any other type of way.

In my project I know they use time as some kind of currency and there seem to be governments that manage things at a very high level and they seem to manage to get things done, and because I'm focusing on a specific group of characters I only have a really vague idea of how their world works, but I'm otherwise pretty sure we could get there eventually XD

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@alexbiojs 64

over 3 years ago (Edited)

well, The Venus project Youtube account is active
(Nov 16, 2020)