How many diplomas are needed in life?
In past posts, I already showed a bit about how I ended up where I am professionally speaking. I wanted to be a scientist since I was a kid, of course, the term scientist is too generic and I had to focus on what type of science I preferred, which was biology. The career of a scientist demands specialization, so a long time studying. After finishing High School I decided to join the Biology school. Biology also is generic, you can study plants, fishes, fungi, bacteria, dinosaurs, and even the dumbest animals, humans. In University you have different classes that give you a bit of an overview of each area. You get more knowledge about a specific field when you start to work and study more, for that is necessary a graduate program, master and/or doctorate. Now I am a doctor more formally known as Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.) in Bioinformatics/Computational Biology, so after 4 years and a bit more in Biology school, plus 2 years of Master's studies and more 4 years in the Doctorate, what does that mean?
Em posts anteriores, já mostrei um pouco sobre como cheguei onde estou profissionalmente falando. Eu queria ser cientista desde criança, é claro, o termo cientista é muito genérico e eu tive que me concentrar em qual tipo de ciência eu preferia, que era a biologia. A carreira de cientista exige especialização, então é preciso estudar por muito tempo. Depois de terminar o ensino médio, decidi ingressar na faculdade de Biologia. Biologia também é genérica, você pode estudar plantas, peixes, fungos, bactérias, dinossauros e até mesmo os animais mais "burrinhos", humanos. Na universidade, você tem diferentes disciplinas que oferecem uma visão geral de cada área. Você adquire mais conhecimento sobre um campo específico quando começa a trabalhar e estudar mais, para isso é necessário um programa de pós-graduação, mestrado e/ou doutorado. Agora sou doutor, mais formalmente conhecido como Doutor em Filosofia (Ph.D.) em Bioinformática/Biologia Computacional, então após 4 anos e um pouco mais na faculdade de Biologia, mais 2 anos de estudos de mestrado e mais 4 anos no doutorado, o que isso significa?
I completed my doctorate in 2017 and after that, I could start applying for jobs that require this title, university professor, principal investigator, or you can start a post-doc which isn't considered a title, it is a research job with cheap payment for the research institutions. There isn't a diploma associated with that, however, we keep studying. So after all these years studying I can't stop studying, since in Science we need to keep ourselves updated. Studying so much allows me a better salary. Maybe comparing with a biologist just with a Bachelor's degree is higher, but many other fields that don't require so much time studying it are comparable. So after studying 6 more years after university and getting two more diplomas, we can try to get a position that pays around a junior engineer ( sometimes a junior engineer gets even more salary compared to a Professor or PI). Because of that, I lost many colleagues to study again through university for another career, which is the only option if you want another diploma, where I am currently. I could also do another diploma or another specialization, but it is challenging, after studying so much during these 6 years I want to avoid that unless you are stuck without a job. When I was in my Ph.D. I was also teaching Biology in a public High School in Rio de Janeiro, even my supervisor was a bit against that, but a Ph.D. in Brazil doesn't have a salary, it is a public fixed income controlled by the government usually that ends exactly after 2 years (for master students) and 4 years (for Ph.D. students). After this period it will end despite your project's current status. For example, my Ph.D. lasted more than 3 months than expected, but the monthly payments ended after the 4-year target, so I stayed 3 months without payments. It can't be called a salary, since master's and Ph.D. students are not considered work and are not included in the regular country's labor laws. So vacations and other benefits depend on your supervisor to allow them. The only "benefit" that was created not much ago is for women that get pregnant they get their master's or Ph.D. frozen, so the monthly payment ending is postponed. Many supervisors want you fully dedicated to their project, but if you want to raise a family that is impossible with the monthly payment (During my time it was BRL 2,200.00, this is now it got a bit raised) and I was paying BRL 1800,00 to rent an apartment that I was sharing with my wife. So luckily I got this job, only 16 hours per week of teaching. During that time they offered all the teachers the possibility to attend a post-graduate program in education for 1 year. Initially, I thought it was a good idea since it was free of cost for me. But I was too occupied with the Ph.D. and couldn't give the attention required for the course. It was too much for me and I quit in the end since I had to write the final project for two different programs. I gave more focus to the Ph.D. of course.
Completei meu doutorado em 2017 e, depois disso, pude começar a me candidatar a empregos que exigem esse título, como professor universitário, investigador principal, ou você pode começar um pós-doutorado, que não é considerado um título, é um trabalho de pesquisa com pagamento baixo para as instituições de pesquisa. Não há um diploma associado a isso, no entanto, continuamos estudando. Então, depois de todos esses anos estudando, não posso parar de estudar, pois na Ciência precisamos nos manter atualizados. Estudar tanto me permite um salário melhor. Talvez comparando com um biólogo apenas com graduação, seja mais alto, mas muitos outros campos que não exigem tanto tempo de estudo são comparáveis. Então, depois de estudar mais 6 anos depois da universidade e obter mais dois diplomas, podemos tentar conseguir uma posição que pague em torno de um engenheiro júnior (às vezes, um engenheiro júnior ganha até mais salário em comparação com um professor ou PI). Por causa disso, perdi muitos colegas para estudar novamente na universidade para outra carreira, que é a única opção se você quiser outro diploma, onde estou atualmente. Também poderia fazer outro diploma ou outra especialização, mas é desafiador, depois de estudar tanto durante esses 6 anos, quero evitar isso, a menos que você esteja sem emprego. Quando eu estava no meu doutorado, também estava ensinando Biologia em uma escola pública de ensino médio no Rio de Janeiro, mesmo meu orientador sendo um pouco contra isso, mas um doutorado no Brasil não tem um salário, é uma renda fixa pública controlada pelo governo, geralmente que termina exatamente após 2 anos (para estudantes de mestrado) e 4 anos (para estudantes de doutorado). Após este período, ele terminará, independentemente do status atual do seu projeto. Por exemplo, meu doutorado durou mais de 3 meses do que o esperado, mas os pagamentos mensais terminaram após o período de 4 anos, então fiquei 3 meses sem pagamento. Não pode ser chamado de salário, pois estudantes de mestrado e doutorado não são considerados trabalho e não estão incluídos nas leis trabalhistas regulares do país. Portanto, férias e outros benefícios dependem do seu orientador para permiti-los. O único "benefício" que foi criado não faz muito tempo é para as mulheres que engravidam, elas têm seu mestrado ou doutorado congelado, então o término do pagamento mensal é adiado. Muitos orientadores querem que você seja totalmente dedicado ao projeto deles, mas se você quiser criar uma família, isso é impossível com o pagamento mensal (durante o meu tempo era de R$ 2.200,00, agora foi um pouco aumentado) e eu estava pagando R$ 1.800,00 para alugar um apartamento que estava dividindo com minha esposa. Então, por sorte, consegui este emprego, apenas 16 horas por semana de ensino. Durante esse tempo, ofereceram a todos os professores a possibilidade de frequentar um programa de pós-graduação em educação por 1 ano. Inicialmente, achei que era uma boa ideia, pois era de graça para mim. Mas estava muito ocupado com o doutorado e não pude dar a atenção necessária para o curso. Foi demais para mim e acabei desistindo no final, pois precisava escrever o projeto final para dois programas diferentes. Dei mais foco ao doutorado, é claro.
I am in a stage of my life that for me now is enough for a new diploma, I want to avoid that since it demands time and dedication and I am currently exhausted. However, I won't discard doing that in the future. One thing that I foresee is maybe doing a specialization to be able to teach here in Canada, the place where I live now. My teaching license in Brazil isn't validated here unless I do that course, so if I need or want to go back to teach at a school here, I will need this Diploma. But otherwise, I don't need more time spent in a classroom as a student, maybe to learn another language then? But there is one lesson, the number of diplomas doesn't mean a better salary or job.
Estou em uma fase da minha vida em que, para mim agora, é suficiente para um novo diploma. Eu quero evitar isso, já que demanda tempo e dedicação e estou atualmente exausto. No entanto, não descartarei fazer isso no futuro. Uma coisa que prevejo é talvez fazer uma especialização para poder ensinar aqui no Canadá, o lugar onde moro agora. Minha licença de ensino no Brasil não é validada aqui, a menos que eu faça esse curso, então se precisar ou quiser voltar a ensinar em uma escola aqui, vou precisar desse diploma. Mas, caso contrário, não preciso de mais tempo passado em uma sala de aula como aluno, talvez para aprender outro idioma então? Mas há uma lição, o número de diplomas não significa um salário ou emprego melhor.
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Clearly. Good conclusion. I enrolled in my third Master degree fully aware that it won't lead to a higher salary. Yet I wanted it to provide the framework and motivation for me to learn a new area.
wow third Master !! That's really unique! The important is that we are happy with our decisions, and even if we aren't, it is ok. I have a friend that went through Master's and PhD's and after that she saw that she was going in an automatic mode, but she never noticed that she wanted another path, now I think she is happy, it has been a while that I don't talk with her, but at least last time it looked like.
Well, as long as we live we strive to do better and become better persons. It's not as much about the outcome (although the outcome does provide useful feedback) as much as bout the flow - feeling that we are not wasting opportunities and trying our best
Hehe. So you are exhausted 😅. May be it's the reason for saying education is a non stop process and it will never end. You gained a lot but in my case I am yet to gain some more.
I know !! You are just in the beginning ... it isn't an easy path, and you will see many friends with less studies with more money, but focus on what you want.
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hahahahaha I wish i had hive when I was still studying!! Hive would be my escape
Hehe. I have Hive and I am lucky in this case. Moreover I gained a moderate amount of knowledge about finance. Moreover I already own little amount of cryptocurrency. I am thinking to get success in multiple ways. Keep doing study is the primary think and all the remaining plans are for backup.
If they clearly give you a higher salary it's worthwhile. After my doctorate I would never go back to school.... Eternal burnout! Congrats on the PhD! You may have to do some more for that teaching license in Canada though. It sucks when one country doesn't accept credentials from another or at least have a set pathway that it can be easily achieved if the candidate is competent.
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Don't tell me, after you are almost finishing Ph.D. you have many psychological problems lol , many people cry a lot in that process. Some people suffer more, my wife has a law degree and she it is a bit tough for her to validate her diploma in here, she is still trying to gather resources for that ( time + money). At least with a diploma in science-related fields is easy to get a job everywhere, research institutes around the world accept them hehe.
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i think both are important getting diplomas and collecting money since also getting paid a good amount is a necessity in this life. Keep it up fren wish you all the best👍
Yes we need the balance right now;)
hahaha hopefully
wait- i didn't know you had a PhD 😳😳 and in bioinformatics roo. if you met my sister she would be ecstatic and would not stop asking you questions (she's in biology and is planning to pursue a microbiology license here and also planning to get a master's
Good luck for her!! She can ask whatever she wants you know where to find me on discord!
whoah you sure about that? because i feel like she'll be asking career advice at this point and thesis topics because she's at that point in her undergrad studies
I am used to :)
thank you orca-saannn 😊 you're the best. I'll go tell her
The idea of a qualification in a country not being accepted without another diploma in another country sucks. We are not talking of local history here which could be peculiar to individual county but science which is not. Well, each country to her own rules.
I love the conclusion of this piece because truly more diploma doesn't translate to more money.
wow bro congratz O.O you're a doctor didn't know that. didn't know you were a genius gwaj O.O
Caramba meu amigo, você é doutor, que legal, mostra todo o empenho e dedicação que teve nos seus estudos e nas lutas que teve durante a sua vida para alcançar algo melhor.
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