What HiveBeepedia and Hive-References Needs To Do To Be My Go-To Resource?

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Earlier, I stumbled upon @magnacarta's post about the Hypothetical "Hivebeepedia." That article is a response to a conversation I didn't experience in the Leofinance community.

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From my understanding, it argues that a large scale Wikipedia alternative is challenging to do on Hive, but small scale references are achievable and goes on many specifics, I encourage you to read it.

In that article @magnacarta asks:

Would the Hive-powered almanac be one you would use yourself as your go-to resource? What needs to happen to make it one?

This article is an expansion of my comment on answering that question:

To use Hive for any type of reference as my Go-to resource, I think these things need to happen: What HiveBeepedia and Hive-References Need To Do To Be My Go-To Resource?

  • They must be heavily hyperlinked. Look at Wikipedia for example, each page will take you to every related one.
  • They must have all the info on the same website/blockchain.
    • A piece of information that doesn't have place in one of the reference material pages, must have another page made for it on the same blockchain.
    • Information sources can be links to the outside. The source must be named in the page text.
  • Since a Blockchain can be slow sometimes, these references must be on an extremely fast interface.
  • I want to be able to easily link to the references:
    • Users must be able to see all the info without registering or paying.
    • The links for these references must be intuitive & standardized. Users should be able to predict the link URL just by knowing which information they want the reference for.
    • The interface must have a suitable search engine that doesn't need third-party involvement.
  • In case of DRAMA, each "side" should have their own page of the reference material.
    • These pages should be linked to each other but otherwise don't interact with each other.
    • That way, the reader can & should choose which "truth" they want to believe in.

These are just things I thought of, and I believe someone else on Hive can expand upon them.

As a user, if you want me to use a website like a reference it must be much easier to do than using Wikipedia. That's not an easy task, but I don't think it's impossible.

The article mentioned above made me think about which information I can make "reference book" pages for on this platform.

Thanks for reading.~



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It seems in the information high tech space, at least the Developers are ready to let the Wikipedia.org page slowly die out. Good for us, it has lost a lot of its former appeal, trust, and usefulness.

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It hasn't lost its usefulness nor appeal for me yet... I usually take information from Wikipedia that bias doesn't affect much, (historical facts, gaming/anime information, classical science,) but I understand why people don't like it anymore.

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I'm double-checking everything, can't trust them anymore.

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Nowadays some of the Wikipedia pages are indeed outdated, but they have not lost their appeal, trust and usefulness. And do not forget the fact that anyone can edit the Wikipedia pages. So if you have new information about something, then feel free to edit the related Wikipedia page(s).

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True, except for the page that are locked - and lots of them are.

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Although "Hivebeepedia" has become a recent topic of discussion, I had brought it up nearly a year ago in one of my earliest posts:

@ahmadmanga brings up great points in his reply post to my recent post, many of which would find agreement with most people. I was just writing about the idea of a Hive-based wiki at a very high level.

If we ever get such a thing as a wiki powered by Hive blockchain, it just makes sense that the links in the articles point to content hosted on Hive blockchain. One way for that to happen would be for us to post as usual, only we add a special tag (say, HBP) to indicate that this post contains content for the wiki. This post would be treated as any other post when it comes to upvotes. Later, any posts featuring the HBP tag get "mined" and processed for use by the publicly-accessible wiki.

While the posts using the HBP tag would reside on Hive blockchain, the "mined" content would be accessed from an off-chain space devoted for the wiki. The two would be tied by metadata regarding the author of the original post.

All content could be linked in 2 ways: a standardized link anyone can build at the keyboard, and an SEO-friendly link. Sometimes they are the same link, but not necessarily. This is a tech matter better discussed later should "Hivebeepedia" be a work in progress.

Searching for wiki content needs to be easy, or at least as easy as what we do on Hive now. Speaking for myself, Ecency provides the best search functionality no matter where our posts reside on Hive blockchain. The wiki could use this search functionality, or it can have search capability made to match that of its leading rivals (original Wikipedia, Wikia, etc.).

If something like a full-blown encyclopedia is too enormous, and something like IMDB.com or baseballreference.com is too time-consuming. maybe we can start with a smaller-scale project as a proof of concept. What would be small enough that we can work on it?

  • a reference for quotations -- this would be open-ended enough for us to kill at any point should we see that we're just wasting time and funding.
  • an almanac where we limit the entries to dates where
    • someone was born;
    • someone died;
    • some event took place.

You'd be surprised to discover who was born on April 20th of some years (and not just since April 20th became known as "Pot Day," either). That's what got the recent discussion going. Since we have Hivers from nations ranging from Argentina to Zimbabwe, it would be great to have almanac data coming from Hivers from those nations and others where people have Hive accounts.

If the almanac as I described is still too ambitious, we narrow down the reference to something small enough where we can at least do data entry, tag with HBP, and search using Ecency. What that small reference would be, I don't know.

Assuming we work out the details for how we want our data entered, how we want the wiki page to look, how we want the data "mined", etc, then we determine how it gets funded. If any project screams "Proof of Brain," it's a wiki or reference. Or it gets its own Layer 2 token. Or it pays contributors and investors in Hive and HBD.


All we're doing now is spitballing and trying to see if there is enough interest in a project of this nature. If there is minimal to zero interest in this sort of project, then that's that (unless someone wants to take it on as a labor of love; we're all adults here).

#hivebeepedia #hbp #hive-wiki #hive-almanac #hive-based-wiki #hive-powered-wiki #hive-reference

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