Science and Religion

We often think that people belong either to the world of science or to the world of religion. That there isn’t even any overlap between the two fields.
But is that really the case? A few days ago, I came across a publication by a thinker and philosopher that dealt precisely with this topic.
His name is Stephen Jay Gould, a career paleontologist, evolutionary biologist, and historian of science, among other activities. He describes a scenario in which such a confrontation is not even logically conceivable, let alone recreated or even meaningful.
In his view, Gould argues that science and religion start from very different points of origin. They are not even on the same dimension or plane. They have distinct initial premises and speak or reflect on things that are absolutely disparate. The objectives of each are very distinct, and they do not share common ground for conflict.
Science and religion occupy realms that are not even in the same galaxy, let alone the same country.
Can Science and religion be "compatible"?
“Science seeks to document the factual nature of the natural world and to develop theories that organize and explain these facts. Religion, on the other hand, operates in the equally important but entirely different realm of human purposes, meanings, and values—matters that the factual realm of science can shed light on, but can never resolve.”
It is in his theory, often referred to as NOMA—Non-Overlapping Magisteria—that we understand that not everything can be explained by science, and not everything that religion posits is true.
One truth cannot contradict another truth.
The two magisteria do not cancel each other out, nor do they overlap. Let us imagine the magisterium of art and beauty. The two are not entirely superimposable, and the truth of one does not imply the falsehood of the other, or the exclusion of the other. Much less the perfect superimposition of the two.
Just as religion cannot comment on or pass judgment regarding the factual conclusions that form part of the body of scientific knowledge, scientists, on the other hand, cannot claim to have a superior or more accurate understanding of moral truth or of the structure of the world in light of it.
The role of religion is far too important to be dismissed or ridiculed, for the comfort and security it provides to those who seek particular solace in theology is fundamental.
In other words, science cannot deny the existence of something higher or transcendent, and thus cannot eliminate a different view of humanity or the world.
Not all of modern science can prove or disprove what religion believes. Evidence does not exclude faith.
Gould posits that science and faith are more or less like having two activities. Just as we read a book in the morning and go for a bike ride in the late afternoon, so can our lives be. We can accept both science and faith. Being believers does not necessarily mean we reject science.
A polarized world seems to be becoming increasingly pronounced. And ideas like those this philosopher developed long before the start of this century seem to be falling apart.
The need to take ideas to extremes, to exclude the coexistence of different schools of thought, seems to be something that has become practically impossible these days.
We can only surround ourselves with people who think like us. And who share the same ideas. Common likes and dislikes. Sharing only these interests and disinterests is far too limiting.
A society that wishes to be evolved is only so when it seeks to establish points of contact. It seeks to see beyond its own limitations.

Source for this post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-overlapping_magisteria
Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay
Original text written by me in Portuguese and translated with DeepL.com (free version)

This is an interesting topic to me.
I'm not sure that the 2 magesteria do not overlap, in practice. I see a lot of talk online about religious claims having scientific validity. I'm not sure that scientific claims of a real Adam and Eve or a global flood are compelling to me.
On the other side, religion is something having to do with how individuals and groups behave in certain settings. I think science has a lot of good things to say about why religion developed, and why it is sticky once it gets in our heads.
One resource I really like is a book I read by John C. Wathey called
Illusion of God's Presence: The Biological Origins of Spiritual Longing
Here's a link to it on Amazon which may be an affiliate link.
https://amzn.to/4bVzVfJ
One can read more about the author and his research on his website:
https://www.watheyresearch.com/about/
Here's a long YouTube video by Wathey.
As for me
I think religion is a human behavior that naturally follows from our nature. I am very much on the science side of things but I have religious beliefs my social circle taught me as a child. I choose to believe things that have no evidence but actually have natural explanations, just because I am able to choose to believe some things that are helpful to me yet have low probability of being "true" in a literal sense. Religion has value to me, and apparently to many others.
Thanks for the excellent post which led me to revisit the topic in my mind. There's tons more that can be said, but this reply is my thoughts in a tiny nutshell.
Have a great day!
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Good morning, @kenny-crane !
Thank you so much for such a rich thoughts that you placed in our reply.
I'm honored to have your reply (a very complete and fundament one) in my post. I completely can see that you read and put effort in your answer, witch is very rare to see here in Hive. Thank you so much for that!
I see my self as a person that is science based, since I'm a veterinarian.
I think that sometimes, more pragmatic persons read and listen to religious texts and speeches to literally. Many scripts, most of them were produced more then 3000 years ago, and it were the words that were "found" to explain "complex" things and concepts to the persons in a "simpler" way.
That could be a part of the issue in the cleavage between the "two worlds".
I didn't knew about this author, but as soon as I finish to reply to all the comments that I have in my Hive feed, I'll be back to watch the YT link that you shared.
Thank you so much for your reply. It is a true gem to have your thoughts about this issue.
Have a great Sunday!
I am having a pretty good Sunday, thanks! And I hope you are, as well.
I'll agree with you, and will generalize it to a thought I have. I think that many texts/books that people read and listen to talks about, can be a type of Rorschach test that can tell us a lot more about what is going on in the reader/listener's mind than what is actually going on in the texts.
People read something that is open to interpretation, which seems to be applicable to most religious texts, and they tell themselves and others what the text means to them. A thousand people can read the same text and there can be dozens of different interpretations voiced by these people. Some will have a literal reading and some a more pragmatic one.
This maybe accounts for all the different denominations and sects in the major religions who are mostly reading the same exact words.
So I would say, if someone reads religious texts (or anything, really), they should talk to people about what it means to them, and ask those people what they think it means. This way we can all have a richer experience. I think it is better than being told by other people what to think about texts and stories.
Just a random thought inspired by your awesome comment to me. Thanks!
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Good morning, @kenny-crane !
Sorry again for the overdue in the reply.
Yes, your point, is in fact the most important part to retain and be mindful about it. We can't only "stay" and live with a single "personal-sided" interpretation of anything. It is, and always will be a biased "opinion". Looking, and caring for other's opinion or view, leads as individuals, and also communities, are more caring and more informed subjects.
Thank you so much for your valuable and worthy comment :)
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STOPGould’s Nonoverlapping Magisteria makes sense, both fields need their own domains. Good call.
Yes, idk!
By the way, I think that humankind should be more aware of the limitations of human capacities... Just like your nickname ;) We, humans, should be more patient to look for solutions, and now thinking we know the answer for "everything" ;)