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Who could have thought that the day will come when the President of United states Donald Trump will inspire the need for HIVE?

HIVE, a blockchain fork whose creation first moved upwards of 25 million coins to other accounts and then ran a resync account blacklist during start up that removed the fund from 60 odd other accounts, then went back to readjust some of those amounts at yet a later date.

Sounds like a dodgey immutability to me. At least Twitter doesn't try to rewrite history, just delete it.

You HIVE believers either don't understand what a fork is or simply have drunk the V.22.2 Cabal's KoolAid.



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HIVE, a blockchain fork whose creation first moved upwards of 25 million coins to other accounts and then ran a resync account blacklist during start up that removed the fund from 60 odd other accounts, then went back to readjust some of those amounts at yet a later date.

Not without consensus, if that is what forms the basis of immutability to you then that can happen anywhere even on bitcoin, and this was to solve issues that came up from the fork, has there been any other?

At least Twitter doesn't try to rewrite history, just delete it.

Haha can you give me 3 instances where history on hive has been rewritten?

In what way exactly has anything ive said about fork different from what you have in that link?

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Not without consensus, if that is what forms the basis of immutability to you then that can happen anywhere even on bitcoin, and this was to solve issues that came up from the fork, has there been any other?

That did not happen with the Bitcoin fork. That was over a technology issue of the size of the blocks. The history of the block prior to the fork was not changed one bit. Even Etherium, whose fork was to undo a transaction which unintentionally locked up millions of tokens in a smart contract, rolled back time to before the creation of the smart contract not simply rewritting history.

Haha can you give me 3 instances where history on hive has been rewritten?

There are at least 60 instances of accounts on the rsync blacklist whose tokens mysteriously disappeared from history; some later to mysteriously reappear. The top 20 witnesses of HIVE have shown that instead of protecting the immutability of the chain that they will play with it as they deem fit.

Any serious investor would not touch this chain with a 10 foot pole.

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These were issues that these platforms were encountering for the first time and had to take the measures they thought was best to move forward, I'm sure at the time people like you would be the ones crying wolf, but now that its a success, its suddenly a right move.

There are at least 60 instances of accounts on the rsync blacklist whose tokens mysteriously disappeared from history...

These were not without reasons, like I've said mention a totally different case where such has happened?

Any serious investor that wont touch this chain can kiss my ass and go ahead and touch other chains they feel worthy enough, Hive is not perfect, but its the best we've got.

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I'm sure at the time people like you would be the ones crying wolf, but now that its a success, its suddenly a right move.

It made me very happy to have my BTC duplicated a number of times to BTC, Bitcoin Gold, etc., etc.. My belief was that BitcoinCash was the true legacy Bitcoin yet that was just an opinion. It did not lessen the added wealth it added to my holdings. At least the fork was done in an orderly and non-vindictive manner which cannot be said for HIVE's embarrassment, by industry standard, of a fork.

These were not without reasons, like I've said mention a totally different case where such has happened?

This has never happened before to my knowledge. There may be some shit coin out there that has done it. My feeling is that HIVE will fall below shit coin level to dust once the power downs are finished on STEEM and there is no longer upward demand for it. Serious investors will not be able to kiss your arse because they will never have heard of HIVE once the drama dies down, most likely.

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There are at least 60 instances of accounts on the rsync blacklist whose tokens mysteriously disappeared from history

Well sorry to say, Hive is carving out its own standards, as its the only type of infrastructure of this paradigm, embarassment today, standard tomorrow.

My feeling is that HIVE will fall below shit coin level to dust once the power downs are finished on STEEM and there is no longer upward demand for it....

How can this be, when Hive remains the only safe heaven for content creators on other centralised platforms? How can this be when Hive is the only infrastructure powering the most used dapp in the world?

How can this be when Hive has the most talented programmers and other individuals committing their best to see this project through?

How can this be when theres a DHF to fund innovations that are profitable for the blockchain?

A lot of time we get carried away with thinking we need one serious large investor to significantly increase the value of Hive, while thats true, its not all, if onboarding can be focused on, having more content creators over in Hive will also increase the value as more people stake up.

No other blockchain solves what Hive does, if you don't see a value to that, you can as well give me all your hive.

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If you care to step out of your HIVE filter bubble to listen to new ideas you may be interested to see what OpenOrchard has in store for DPoS. You may recognise all of the team as being the original devs from Steemit Inc.. Even they are stepping away from the vindictive power crazed V.22.2 Cabal of HIVE.

Whether you do or you do not is no concern of mine. Enough time has been wasted on deaf ears. Continue to support the token grinding circle jerking of those at the top of this pyramid while you gather your crumbs from below. You know, decentralisation HIVE style.

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I'm definately open to other ideas my friend, unfortunately i couldnt listen to it but id do more research into minds and get back to you.

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Even they are stepping away from the vindictive power crazed V.22.2 Cabal of HIVE

Thats entirely the responsibility of the community, and if it is as you've said, definately the repercussion awaits, which I'm totally ready for.

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... unfortunately i couldnt listen to it ...

Perhaps this early intro will give you some idea of what they are up to, as well as keeping you up to date with future announcements. It is basically the old Steemit Inc. team that gave up their employment with Justin Sun, putting their livelyhoods on the line. The V.22.2 Cabal of HIVE were protecting their livelyhoods in my opinion. Big difference.

One will seek a betterment of the technology while one will seek the status quo. Just the fact that witness vote retention has not yet been dealt with in any of the HIVE forks speaks volumes to me.

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Oh I've been following Openseed, then Openorchid from the scratch ofcourse great innovation, but whats being built isn't a bkockchain, no comment or statement insinuated that, or perhaps it even is a blockchain, Yaaay, id gladly use it too.

While Hive stinks of imperfection, its the best yet. Why aren't the better versions of Bitcoin more valuable than it?

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The Spotify podcast, which unfortunately does not work in your location, goes into greater depth of the thinking they have been making over the last month or so. They are creating a blockchain whose token distribution will not be pre-mined but more fairly distributed.

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That will be super cool, I hope there'd be an airdrop.

I hope they have more tricks under their sleeves besides "distribution", so what happens to the plans they had concerning incorporating Hive blockchain?

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My understanding is that they have an idea to incorporate a lot of side chain like activity. Perhaps HIVE might figure in there. In the interview pointed to Andrew Levine, former communications officer(?) of Steemit Inc. and now OpenOrchard CEO, floated the idea of Minds using their chain's token and Minds' CEO being open to the idea. That would be a move away from ETH contracts for Minds at the moment.

P.S. Another big diff was that he mentioned one could house their data on the blockchain or in a more centralised AWS cloud servers setup like the graphic housing on the HIVE/STEEM blockchains. Not sure what would be the choice. Perhaps gas requirements to use the blockchain? Not sure on that. They seem to want their white paper nailed before releasing any code.

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Their best selling point remains a concept till date, same with SMT's that we are yet to see. I'm optimistic about the movement and look forward to it. Its just that I will not say Hive is not what it is it because I'm drinking the cool aid that something better is in the works. Give me a break. Lets be real, hive is the illest yet.

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Their best selling point remains a concept till date,

My feeling is there best selling point is that the entire team are the ex-STINC Devs, two of them being the original coders with @dan. My.money is on them.

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Yes thats undeniable, their project is worth looking out for

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These stupid fucking arguments have been answered time and time again.

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