RE: What Happened on the Moon? (2000) [eng/срп] Шта се десило на Месецу? (2000)

"ISS is at 380 km orbit. Far below Van Allen Belt and protected from the deadly radiation."

"In 2012, a new set of probes launched. The Van Allen Probes (formerly known as the Radiation Belt Storm probes) have several scientific goals, including...how the belts change during geomagnetic storms. The mission was planned to last two years, but as of May 2018 the probes were still operating at more than double the expected mission lifetime."
"It is known that the belts can swell when the sun becomes more active. Before the probes launched, scientists thought the inner belt was relatively stable, but when it did expand, its influence extended over the orbit of the International Space Station and several satellites."
"The ISS has been permanently inhabited since 2000, with typical astronauts staying there for six months at a time."
"The astronauts on the ISS do not regularly spend time inside the belts, but from time to time solar storms expand the belts to the orbit of the space station. In the 1960s, several Apollo crews went through the Van Allen belts on their way to and from the moon. Their time in that radiation-intensive region, however, was very short, in part because the trajectory was designed to pass through the thinnest known parts."
"Newer findings from the probes show that radiation in certain zones may be less harsh than scientists thought. In March 2017, the Van Allen Probes made a finding showing there is less radiation in the inner belts that previously theorized, which means less shielding is required for spacecraft and satellites in that region."
"Luckily, scientists got the chance to observe a storm up close in March 2015, when one of the Van Allen Probes happened to be situated inside the "right" spot in Earth's magnetic field to see an interplanetary shock."
"...in this case, a coronal mass ejection of charged particles from the sun creates a shock..."
https://www.space.com/33948-van-allen-radiation-belts.html

Kelly and Kornienko were on the ISS in 2015-2016.

"The inner Van Allen Belt extends typically from an altitude of 0.2 to 2 Earth radii (L values of 1 to 3) or 1,000 km (620 mi) to 12,000 km (7,500 mi) above the Earth.[3][11] In certain cases, when solar activity is stronger or in geographical areas such as the South Atlantic Anomaly, the inner boundary may decline to roughly 200 km[12] above the Earth's surface."
"Apollo Astronauts going through the Van Allen Belts received a very low and non-harmful dose of radiation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

It is not true that the Van Allen belts are an impediment to space travel, or even living on the ISS when the belts are affected by a CME event that immerses the ISS in the lower belt. The ISS has been continuously inhabited since 2000 despite repeatedly being immersed in the lower Van Allen belt. So far as I am aware, there have been no reported injuries or illnesses as a result.

"I have said that just those two things are enough to conclude it was all a fake."

I have pointed out over and over that there are numerous other reasons to fake moon pics. Faked moon pics does not only lead to the unavoidable conclusion that the moon landings were a hoax. It means NASA did not want to show the public what the astronauts were examining on the moon, or were installing, or something else, maybe even that there were no moon landings. That is a possibility, but it is not at all a certainty, or even more likely than other possible reasons.

Similarly the claim they forgot how to go back to the moon has absolutely no bearing on whether they went to the moon or not. It means they're lying (IMHO) for some reason. However, it is not even evidence about moon landings at all. It's even possible they're not actually lying about forgetting how to do it.

Faked pics and lies about forgetting how do not add up to more evidence together than separately, because neither is evidence the moon landings were fake at all.

The movie you linked was not an objective look at facts, but blatantly biased, and implied and insinuated the moon landings were a hoax without surcease, which is why I mentioned the pure conjecture regarding how the camera was held right at the beginning of the movie to try and deny such a picture could have been taken from space. That conjecture is not evidence of anything except the bias of the producers of the movie.

That is not how facts are established. That is how propaganda is made. I do not have an agenda other than seeking to ascertain facts that can falsify the claim that NASA put men on the moon. That movie made claims the moon landings were fake without regard to scientific fact or veracity. The people who made the movie have an agenda to convince people the moon landings were faked, and they clearly dissemble and lie to do that. I do not find that movie more credible than NASA, at all, for that reason.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you want to falsify the claim that men landed on the moon, you're going to need to provide actual evidence of that, not false claims about radiation, conjecture, insinuation, implication, or putting words in my mouth.

"Russians had sent a protected probe with a various living Earth organisms at 800 km, and I thing only snails survived."

"The Soviet/Russian Bion program provided U.S. investigators a platform for launching Fundamental Space Biology and biomedical experiments into space. The Bion program, which began in 1966, included a series of missions that flew biological experiments using primates, rodents, insects, cells, and plants on a biosatellite in near-earth orbit. NASA became involved in the program in 1975 and participated in 9 of the 11 Bion missions.[2] NASA ended its participation in the program with the Bion No.11 mission launched in December 1996. The collaboration resulted in the flight of more than 100 U.S. experiments, one-half of all U.S. life sciences flight experiments accomplished with non-human subjects."
"In 2005, the Bion program was resumed with three new satellites of the modified Bion-M type – the first flight was launched on 19 April 2013 from Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan. The first satellite of the new series Bion-M1 featured an aquarium by the German Aerospace Center (DLR)[4] and carried 45 mice, 18 Mongolian gerbils, 15 geckos, snails, fish and micro-organisms into orbit for 30 days before re-entry and recovery.[5][6] All the gerbils died due to a hardware failure, but condition of the rest of the experiments, including all geckos, was satisfactory. Half the mice died as was predicted.[7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bion_(satellite)

If there's some other such test you refer to please provide a link. A great many biological experiments have been carried out in space, and I am unaware of any that showed unexpected radiation danger that made passage through the Van Allen belts unacceptably risky.

I have long held you in high regard because you provide strong evidence of claims you make. I do not find the highly pejorative conjecture, insinuation, and false claims made in that movie at all convincing. This is why I said I expect better of you. I really do. It was you that falsified the claims of the NEJM and JAMA back in March 2020, when you convinced me Covid19 was not the deadly plague I had read it was in those highly respected journals, and you did this by providing very strong evidence that disproved the false claims of authoritative experts.

I will again point out that I only even looked at these claims because it was you making them, because of my regard for you. I am unconvinced by the very weak evidence provided to show the moon landings were faked, and particularly by the easily refuted claim the Van Allen belts are too radioactive to cross on the way.

Edit: here's something maybe NASA didn't want us to see.

https://odysee.com/@TheLostHistoryChannelTKTC:0/pyramid-discovered-on-the-moon-shorts:6