RE: Deep Self Healing - The #1 Priority For Humans That Most People Ignore Constantly.
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Hello to you,
personally, I do not see the highest priority or even obligation in preserving my own health. I would even say that it is this very statement that, long before 2020, led to the event that then occurred, that health was designated as the highest social good. I speak out against such a view of what it means to be human. The moment you use this as an argument towards your perceived opponents, you confirm their view more than you doubt it.
a large percentage of human deaths could be prevented if those involved had sufficiently accurate and deep awareness/information regarding their own inner state.
To this I would like to add to my provocation and also reinforce this statement as a confirmation of those you describe as having too little knowledge of their inner world.
The expression "prevention of human death" is quite a shocker and double-edged.
Because when two supposedly opposing worldviews both talk about preventing death, however, they are not really opposing each other, but confirming to each other that this must be the first and foremost concern of human communities.
So as not to be misunderstood, I am not saying that the negative statement "one need not be concerned about the prevention of human death" is acceptable, rather I would avoid this formulation.
Since I am not you and you are using this formulation, I am asking if you are saying this because by doing so you are sending out a common form of communication and language that is meant to reach those who do have the same goal (prevention of death), and are "just on the wrong side"?
Be aware that we are surrounded by epic amounts of mind control and limiting belief systems that attempt to use guilt and fear to control us
Again I see more similarities than differences. When you say that death could have been prevented if those involved would have had wisdom, more lives could have been saved, is it not that you use guilt and fear in the very same way? The blame or shame in being seen as a killer works pretty well, I find on both spectrums. Not literally "well" in the sense that it takes steps to welcome the conflict but to harden the lines.
As Allan Watts put it, this could be seen as a game where "I am more enlightened than you are".
Hi, thanks for your comments.
Since every other priority you could have (except your own death) relies upon your own continuation and health, it is simple logic to determine that health is the highest priority.
I am not sure what event you are referring to here. In my experience, the majority of people do not consider health to be as high a priority as would be sensible. It sounds like you are identifying governmental interference in health more than you are highlighting a collective human agreement to ensure health is the highest priority.
We seem to have a very different interpretation of the topic here. Health is not something that needs to involve opponents since to have opponents is itself not healthy. Health definitely isn't a weapon. One of the biggest misunderstandings about health on Earth is that people have completely denied the role of free will in health. If we are overriding the free will of others or feeling overridden ourselves, then we are not in a state of health. Health cannot manifest in a body that is involved in a push and pull struggle of will. This is part of the cause of so much of the illness on Earth - the constant stress of perpetual conflict and imbalanced minds struggling to find peace takes it's toll.
I am having difficulty understanding what you mean by these comments. Life literally depends on the prevention of human death. The entire process of human reproduction is a workaround for the problem of death and attempts to prevent the everlasting effect of total human death. If you think that human death is just fine then you neither understand life or health.
If two opposing worldviews talk about preventing death then they must share some common ground, providing that they are genuinely using the same definition for the idea 'preventing death'. However, I am not clear which worldviews or scenario you are referring to - perhaps you mean the difference between the gov/pharma strategy for 'preventing death' and other strategies? Yes, people can have very different ideas about how to prevent death, but again, it comes down to free will. Those with a free will must take the action necessary to prevent their own death in the way that they personally choose. Those who attempt to stop them doing so, do so at their own risk and actually risk harm to themselves. Free will means we get to do what we want/need to do but cannot override others.
An added complexity here is that many people have an undercurrent death wish, that causes them to take actions that lead to their own death - they may take others with them. Such people could absolutely be proclaiming that they are trying to save lives. The waters here are very murky indeed.
I am simply sharing the benefit of a vast amount of human hours in exploration, practical application and experience - drawn from countless generations, lifetimes and individual sources. People can do with it what they choose.
Billions of people continue to die. If people have fear at being informed that there are ways to improve the situation then that fear would mostly be the fear that already existed and which was being denied so heavily until it was brought into focus by the thoughts which stirred in response to my words. There is nothing to fear in the prospect of healing, balancing and evolving. Guilt requires blame and I am not blaming anyone here. Blame can, similarly to fear, be stirred when it lies dormant in the thought/emotion processes of individuals. When such emotions stir from the unconscious, the mind can often wrongly assume their causes are within whatever people/events or other triggers were around in that moment, but in reality these feelings can have deeper origins that predated the present moment. This is part of the nature of unconsciousness and it's processing. Bring thoughts and feelings into the present moment is only really useful and powerful if we increase our understanding and awareness simultaneously. This requires enquiry into the origins of the thoughts and feelings, especially the fear and anger. The failure to do such enquiry and the tendency to simply blame and attack others for what was laying dormant already within us is one of the main forms of denial on Earth and one of the main reasons that human evolution has been so stagnant for so long.
Everyone who causes death is to some extent a killer. The realisation of this requires us to introduce compassion and self acceptance to remove blame and shame, allowing the door to open to new realities and healing. Highlighting that death is happening and we all have some involvement is not an act that is inherently blame laden.
Enlightenment means 'increasing understanding'. I am more enlightened than I was when I was 5 years old because I have questioned more, learned more and experienced more than I had then. We can all increase or even decrease our own levels of light. We can therefore also have more light than each other at any given moment. There isn't really a way around this and hand waving away the need to increase understanding as simply a 'petty game' is another damaging pattern caused by 'spiritual people' that has also served only to keep humanity stagnating. We cannot continue this much longer, the systems on Earth are tragically dangerously out of balance. Those who intent to survive have a window of opportunity that is small.
What nonsense. You are born, you grow, you become an adult, you age, you get sick and then you die. What do you think the birth of a human being heralds other than his certain death? What should people die of, other than disease (ergo, a natural death) and a finite lifespan? Health until the end of life, and then, snap, just like that, man dies? What is he supposed to die of when he has grown old and frail, but of his very infirmities?
I do not share this view in the least that death is a "problem to be circumvented". My problem is the view that death shall be a problem.
All life comes into being through birth, lasts for a while and ends with death; this applies to earthly life and it applies to the stars of the cosmos, something comes into being and passes away again. Do you see this cycle, which can be observed everywhere, as a problem?
To me that's spinning, "preventing the everlasting effect of total human death." As if there were some final solution.
Yes, human death is not only perfectly in order, precisely and for the very reason that it mirrors both the earthly and cosmic order. How can you not see that?
Goodness gracious. When someone gets sick, you take care of them. You don't fuss about it and you give them food and drink and whatever else they need. You probably also have to endure their grumpiness and self pity, given by them feeling weak.
You talk to the old people and listen to where they are hurting everywhere and that they are happy when they can finally die soon. You mourn them and others where they may have died earlier than expected, and you pay your last respects to them and their relatives.
The best thing that can happen to you is to accompany someone when they die and not feel sorry for yourself like the last lousy dog because it is supposedly so unacceptable to witness illness or dying. You learn that this is a love affair between the dying and yourself.
I understand that you are afraid of death. I am and would rather not. So I like to accept it as order and not fight against it.
I have lived many human lifetimes, I recall some of them. I have an understanding of life that is beyond the simple linear misconceptions that you are holding on to. I also viewed life through similar lenses to the ones you are holding at present for quite a long time, however, after a lot of work and exploration I now know differently.
I also know that it is neither possible for preferable for me to convince anyone of anything at all - the truth does not need to be convincing. Those with intent to explore will do so and those without the intent will not.
'Those with ears to hear' continue to hear.
yeah, yeah, "those will and those will not." More phrases.
Work harder, I would say.
You know what I was referring to. And why wouldn't you?
It's one and the same idea!
Whether it's the government prescribing health or the "collective human agreement" you so sweetly portray, it's the exact same attitude. Where do you think governments get their ideas from? If not from the kind of soft-washed formulations you are using right now, where they pull a wolf out of this very sheep's clothing. There is a full circle here. I think you know it but don't want to hear it.
With these dish-warming phrases you give what they want to create a "collective consciousness as a priority of health" with.
You can call bullshit and hypocrisy where it occurs. You did that back in time, if I remember correctly. And you were downvoted for it. Sure enough that would happen.
Haven't any of yours told you that you're babbling? I had an old friend say it to me on my head because I talked the same way you do. I was poked like a fury, so much did her statement affect and enrage me. Of course, that's because it was true. It took me another couple of years after that to get off that "I'm so holy" trip again. If I forget to be careful, I snap back right into it. Habits are not easy to get rid off.
Good luck with that.
I know who I am, where I am going and how to resolve most of the problems humans face, including death. I am happy to share that information but few people have done the work to be able to be receptive to new information on the topic without their defence mechanisms kicking in to ridicule/mock. Fear is like that, it often triggers anger to try to defend the thinker. When all of this is unconscious, the results are haphazard and not productive. When dealing with these topics, these kinds of patterns - stemming from inter generational mind control and unhealed emotions - are inevitable.
I am not interested in you being able to solve problems humans face. That was my most important answer to you, that I don't see death as a problem. I also referred to old peoples who want to die as they have accepted this as universal. Since death occurs all over the world, you have to know in practice how to meet it. You cannot even talk about very personal experiences.
Unless you are not able to tell why it is a problem for you, I need not talk to you further. Why something so universal and obviously happening, shall be even seen as a problem? If you had so many lives you claimed to have lived, you'd already know that. Death is the ultimate destination for THIS life.
One more thing. It astounds me that you so clearly can see the fear of others and yet do not ascribe this very fear for yourself. If you would not fear your own death, it would not stretch itself towards other humans. But if you say that fear is the very root for conflict (to which I fully agree) and you take it for presenting solutions, I see it as a stark contradiction.
Of course, it's very natural that defense kicks in when you question the spiritual or religious superstructure of so many humans who accept death as universal. You seem to skip that part too quickly as something that shall not happen or is not worth to take into consideration, why defense is taking place.
You know what I was referring to. And why wouldn't you?
It's one and the same idea!
Whether it's the government prescribing health or the "collective human agreement" you so sweetly portray, it's the exact same attitude. Where do you think governments get their ideas from? If not from the kind of soft-washed formulations you are using right now, where they pull a wolf out of this very sheep's clothing. There is a full circle here. I think you know it but don't want to hear it.
With these dish-warming phrases you give what they want to create a "collective consciousness as a priority of health" with.
You can call bullshit and hypocrisy where it occurs. You did that back in time, if I remember correctly. And you were downvoted for it. Sure enough that would happen.
Haven't any of yours told you that you're babbling? I had an old friend say it to me on my head because I talked the same way you do. I was poked like a fury, so much did her statement affect and enrage me. Of course, that's because it was true. It took me another couple of years after that to get off that "I'm so holy" trip again. If I forget to be careful, I snap back right into it. Habits are not easy to get rid off.
Good luck with that.