RE: A little more robotic

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There does seem to be a lot of people that think because they can take a hundred pictures, use the tools to make it better believe they are on a par with the professionals. I sort of feel sorry for those people. I know I will never be a scottsshots or marktruangel or axman or derangedvisions or jarvie (I probably screwed some of the names up but I'm sure you know the pro's I speak of), that is why I do not even pretend. Photography is a skill, I can look at and see the difference in my photo's and those of the real amateurs seeking to improve and the pro's looking for different techniques from colleagues.

It seems to be the same in the digital art field, there are the equivalent of the backyard hobby photographer, amateur, and pro levels, I do see people sometimes asking why that person got more rewards, and their work is ignored. While the tools and simplicity may make it easier, they do not make you a professional. it takes time, learning the skill set, and then a lot of practice putting those skills to use.

Inclusiveness is not a right nor a privilege, when a person is included in or as a part of a club/group/professional society, it should be because they have put the time and the effort into being recognized as a peer. Short-cuts are not going to get a person recognized.

I think at times we need a return to the exclusiveness point of view. I know not many will understand that. Honorary Membership/degrees have destroyed the meaning of most Exclusive Clubs, and Higher learning facilities. Why work at being a real member when you can just buy your way in.

Many things have been devalued by buy-ins and Inclusiveness. There are some people that are just better at somethings than others. Just because a person can write or type does not make them an Author. There is a difference between a nice picture and a professional one. Between an okay painting and a masterpiece. Between a blog and Gone with the Wind.

I think a lot of content/creators/producers do not understand the the consumer can distinguish between various levels. I am not sure about:

the audience prefer the technology aided result over the one where a skilled human with minimal tools did a fantastic job

The younger audience perhaps, I am no longer young, I still like the works that were worked on.



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Its the consolation trophy mentality, and it wont end well, I agree with you.

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While the tools and simplicity may make it easier, they do not make you a professional. it takes time, learning the skill set, and then a lot of practice putting those skills to use.

Very few of the artists/photogs (even the good ones) will be able to make a living from it. I like that on Hive that here everyone can pretty much earn something, some tiny recognition of their attempt. Very few will ever make it significant on or off Hive. Being envious of others here or anywhere is silly, regardless of what they produce.

it should be because they have put the time and the effort into being recognized as a peer. Short-cuts are not going to get a person recognized.

I think we have swallowed the "overnight success" line too deeply and we are choking on it. Even basic skills take time to develop and when it comes to public support, the network doesn't come cheaply. I am not talking about "buying friends" as you know, I mean it takes effort to actually build relationships that last.

Community is an investment from every individual.

The younger audience perhaps, I am no longer young, I still like the works that were worked on.

Many people love high-definition, seeing every pore in the skin. They base the quality of a photo on how fine the image is, not what was actually captured. We want slow motion in sports, an unbreakable voice to sing, no mistakes, no degradation in fidelity. While not everyone feels this way, likely most of us in some way do this.

You might enjoy this series. I have only seen one or two of them.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr_1EbMqDlNaqnQK157-JVw

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I'll take a look at some of the vids tomorrow for me, getting late here. As you know, most artist never make a lot of money when they are alive, a few may get some recognition for awhile, but it always seems short lived. I am sure the art patrons know who is in vogue today, who is yesterdays old news, and who might be up and coming, but as just a mere mortal, it is hard to find art that I like.

Andy Warhol was supposed to have been an in vogue real artist the darling of the art community, for me, I really did not like his art. I preferred Frank Frazetta and Escher.

There are people on Hive who's art I and photography I do like. One of the benefits that I see for artist and photographers is they can build a good following and get rewarded. It takes time, but the good art/photo's are going to shine and people will follow.

I wish people could see beyond looking for a single or couple of whale supporters for their work, and just concentrate on doing what they are good at and try to build a support base of ordinary small accounts, they would be better off. There really is room for all levels of skill on Hive, and there are communities to support the various levels, but the instant gratification of suddenly being seen by one big whale vote, and then no follow up the instant stardom fades and the * "overnight success"* becomes nothing but a one night stand.

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I wish people could see beyond looking for a single or couple of whale supporters for their work, and just concentrate on doing what they are good at and try to build a support base of ordinary small accounts, they would be better off

What they don't seem to realize is that doing it this way means that they are also supporting those smaller accounts to grow, by producing content that they like. In time, those small accounts become much larger and there will be many, many more of them.

The one night stand crowd don't survive anywhere for long.

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