Zoom buys Keybase

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I saw this announcement on Twitter today

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Announcements from Keybase and Zoom.

If you do not know Keybase it is a service that provides encryption. I think it originally implemented PGP in Javascript so you could do various actions via the web. I created an account years ago as it also lets you prove that you control on-line accounts my posting digitally signed messages. Later they added messaging, file storage, GIT (code versioning) and team services. All this is free. The have had funding from Stellar Lumens with whom they did a big airdrop, but had to stop it due to major abuse.

I know some people were looking at adding the facility to authenticate Steem accounts. I had hoped this would at least be done for Hive.

I trust Keybase as they have been audited and they are serious about encryption, which is vital to privacy and authentication.

Some of the responses to the tweet were quite negative with people saying they will close their Keybase accounts. Companies get bought all the time and some seem created with that aim to get a big payout for the founders (e.g. Ned).

We do know that Zoom need good encryption and they have had issues with it. I used their video conferencing service years ago for work, but it has become much more popular during the lockdown. I saw mention of it rapidly going to 20x the previous usage. That is likely to be mostly people using the free service. They have come under intense scrutiny and been picked up on various flaws. They use some developers in China and were serving encryption keys from there, so people have suggested that they may be partly controlled by the government there.

I suspect that Zoom are not particularly 'evil', and others agree. They are a business who will suffer if they are seen to be exploiting their customers beyond what they will accept. Of course Facebook and others get these accusations too, but people accept the compromise of usefulness over giving away their data.

For most of my Zoom usage I am not too bothered about the Chinese listening in, which I doubt they do. If you need more secure communications then you can pay for alternatives. I have seen open source Jitsi mentioned, but have not tried it yet. Zoom is just the default everyone has installed now.

I wish the Keybase team well and I really hope that this does not mean the end of the services they have offered. Zoom should have the money to fund it. I would consider paying for what I use if it was reasonable. I might be more worried if Google had bought it as they have shut down numerous services that I liked.

The IT business landscape is continually changing. What we do not really want are monopolies. This is one reason I was attracted to Steem as it looked like it could be decentralised. Of course we found out it was vulnerable and so have Hive now. There are very few on-line services with decades of history. One of my oldest accounts is on last.fm that has logged my music listening for 16 years. They got bought by CBS ages ago, but are still going.

I will keep my Keybase account and monitor how things go.



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This seems like a really really good move from Zoom! They got a lot of backlash from not being secure enough, I like this! :D

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Security is hard to get right. Any weakness will get exploited. Part of the issue for Zoom is users not knowing what to do, so they need to address that too.

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True, Zoom is a bit weird.
I do use it now and then, but not often.

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A good sign to show that they care and the they add more security....

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Let's hope so. Of course it's all business, but I think some people care about doing good stuff.

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I have mixed feelings. I use both services, so on one hand I should have no problem with it. But I pay for one and use the other for free. I'm also using them for very different purposes and chose them for different reasons. I hope to see they both continue to meet my expectations despite the new acquisition, and perhaps even improve upon them.

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This is probably the worse bit of news that I have gotten in the past couple of months. I really hope that they uphold the integrity of Keybase. I have really started to enjoy using it on a daily basis. I have no love for Zoom. The fact that they only took care of their security issues after their hand was forced is very telling to me. I have little faith that they have any integrity in the way they do business. Time will tell if I continue to use Keybase.

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What particular issues do you have with Zoom? Are they evil or incompetent?

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They do say "In fairness, Zoom is not inherently bad". They became much bigger by luck. We know most people do not think much about security, but Zoom have been called out and fixed a lot of issues.

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I've never used Zoom. Probably won't unless I am forced to. I work in a field where privacy is important. Just like health care has HIPPA, we have FERPA for student safety. I am not saying Google is perfect, but our GSuite licensing specifically addresses FERPA and protects our students. They might sell everyone's data that owns a Gmail account, but they are smart enough not to touch the GSuite stuff. For that reason and several others we will be sticking with Google Meet for our conferencing.

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Fair enough. There are various options out there, but people say that if the product is free then they are probably making money from your data.

As far as I know the Keybase chat is very secure, but they were not likely to do audio or video.

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