Fully utilizing the power of Hive communities and tags together

in hive-144703 •  6 months ago  (edited)

Content discovery has already improved thanks to the first attempts at implementing Hive communities (and to some extent tribes as well). One either doesn't know how to look or doesn't have the best intentions not to see that yet.

And all that happens even with minimal interface changes. What will it improve when interfaces go beyond the minimal changes? See Steempeak's beta as an example of a little step forward and you'll understand.

What we really need, and that's a request for a long time, is a well designed #search-functionality. Let's say it's understandable it was postponed till after Hivemind and Hive communities were created and in use.

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We have something really powerful on Steem: the possibility to have both communities and tags.

Once we will have well designed search functionalities, the combination of the two can make content discovery so easy.

Let's say we have a "Favorite Movie" community. Maybe we already do, I haven't checked.

And in that community people talk about their favorite movies, obviously.

Let's say you'd like to see an old movie. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to search in the "Favorite Movie" community, for posts with the "#old-movies" tag?

Maybe even contextual autocomplete tags to look for. For example, there may be even more explicit tags, like "old-action-movies" or "old-adventure-movies" or "old-comedy-movies" or "old-love-movies" and so on.

Once you type "o" in the tags field, for the "Favorite Movie" community, several choices are presented to you. By the time you type "old-" the options above are likely suggested.

This brings me to the limitation to one dash for tags on the steemit.com interface. Likely the decision to make this limitation was taken to limit abuse and the number of index keys. Well, since this limitation is only imposed in the tags field (not the in the body field), and other interfaces don't have it, I wonder if it's necessary? You can see above the clear example where more dashes would be useful (true, they can be added via the post body).

Searching should not be a detective work, like in the image above. That's why most won't say search for something online. They will say they'll google for something. Google became synonymous to the online search engine, even if it was a late comer at this party. But everything was stupid simple on their search page.

A well designed search functionality, both #easy-to-use in its basic form, and allowing the #flexibility of advanced search criteria, would put Hive communities and Steem in the position to soar. In my opinion, of course.

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I'm testing the beta.steempeak.com and posted it via this interface. Something interesting is the communities' feed!

That's the same as in steemit beta, I believe. The difference is steemit beta doesn't include the blog feed as well as a choice (or the other interface-specific options from steempeak like favorites and lists).

I haven't built on that yet, but more powerful should be explore -> topics, with a combination of communities, tribes and tags to feed from.

Hopefully now that Justin is in charge we'll start to see some real progress. The main thing that needs to be fixed with communities, is the "Hive" tag needs to be changed to the name of the actual community!

I'm curious to see what will happen.

Cg

  ·  6 months ago (edited)

The "hive-" ids take care of themselves now... It doesn't matter how they are called internally except for programmers, to make the communities distinguishable even if they have the same name.

It matters how the users see them, and the users will see them as the name of the community now that the main interfaces switched to communities as well. All needed now is for the other interfaces to include support for Hive communities.

Sorry to have missed the pay period. Great idea. Resteemed to foster the conversation.

No worries and thanks for the resteem! Yup, I hope some of these ideas will be explored, under this form or another in the close future.

It would make a worthwhile SPS bounty.

There's this proposal of Steempeak:
https://steemit.com/steempeak/@steempeak/the-always-up-to-date-steempeak-proposal

I don't think it ever reached funding threshold, although they keep delivering.

On steemit there are some new functions - the button post leads to all your post - no resteems but every community post! That's a good idea i think to find special posts... thank you for your thoghts!

  ·  6 months ago (edited)

Yes, that's a good idea to find all the community posts of someone.

On Steempeak there is a similar menu on your profile called "All posts". Instead of only community posts, it lists all posts, both community and on the personal blog. Also without resteems.

Thank you - i am not so familiar with steempeak, but i give it a try because there are many people in the german community woh use it with pleasure ;-)

You can always give them feedback to improve, especially since you'll see it with the eyes of someone who never used it before.

Feedback is worthy, i know. ;-) Maybe i will take the time to do so....