AI And The Field Of Infinite Possibilities

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Namaste Everyone!

I consider knowledge is of two kinds: knowledge acquired through data and knowledge acquired intuitively without data.

Without data, Artificial Intelligence (AI), especially at the subset level of machine learning and at the sub-subset level of deep learning, is of little use and is practically useless.

But humans are capable of discerning things intuitively, without data.

Let me give two examples:

1. Predictions Of Technological Events

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About 20 years ago I read several books written by sages that the spiritual organization known as SRF (Self Realization Fellowship) represents. SRF is founded by Paramahamsa Yogananda of the "Autography of a Yogi" book fame. The book "Autography of a Yogi" has been highly acclaimed as a spiritual classic and was designated as one of the "100 Most Important Spiritual Books of the 20th Century" by Philip Zeleski whilst he was under the auspices of HarperCollins Publishers. The book is also named in the book "50 Spiritual Classics: Timeless Wisdom from 50 Great Books of Inner Discovery, Enlightenment and Purpose" by Tom Butler-Bowdon.

Most of these books by SRF were written late last century or beginning of this century and one or two of them carried predictions of several technological events. I remember two of the predictions vividly until today.

  • One of them is that mankind will discover a way to make metal so lightweight that in future air travel will become extremely commonplace because the technology will enable travelers to travel much cheaper and faster and further cover a much longer distance in a single trip than possible now. With the discovery of graphene and other 2d materials we already know how to make metals lightweight (and much stronger). It will only be matter of time before we see this technology being employed in aviation industry to make commercial lightweight airplanes.
  • The other prediction made was that mankind will discover that there are five different kinds of electricity. The author posits that the five senses in our body are made possible by these five different kinds of electricity. So far we have not seen any evidence of this yet but it looks like a very interesting proposition.

2. Naadi Divination

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Imagine yourself, a foreigner, traveling in India and you meet a stranger who tells you about a certain kind of astrology where the "astrologer" could tell everything about your past, present and future accurately by reading out from manuscripts written on palm leaves about 5000 thousands years ago. The palm leaf manuscripts even state when you will seek out to have it read to you (Hence the name "naadi" which means 'seek out' in Tamil language).

In other words, thousands of years ago someone already knew that you (Tom, Carol, ChenRong, Jakub or Nakamoto) will be born in the USA, Britain, China, Poland or Japan to your parents (names of your fathers and mothers are mentioned) at such and such time and date (your time and date of birth are mentioned) and on a designated date you will seek out the manuscript and have it read to you. The manuscript is written in either Sanskrit or Tamil but your father's and mother's names are usually written in your native language and some of these native languages may not have been in existence at the time the manuscripts were supposed to have been written!

The manuscript also contains your natal astrological chart, with the position of the planets (such as Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Saturn and Jupiter) at the time of your birth, inscribed on it. How did the sages know of the existence of planets such as Mercury, Saturn and Jupiter long before the astronomers discovered it? They could also tell the position of the planets in the zodiac at the time of your birth, thousands of years before your birth.

This is not some kind of hocus-pocus because many people (including myself) have experienced it and can vouch for it and the video below is one such testimony from Bill McDonald, an American.

Naadi Palm Reading: How it works and what happens. Prophecies & Spiritual Insights - Youtube video by Bill McDonald


There are a small select number of people living among us who are capable of harnessing these kinds of knowledge and creativity having attained a state of awareness known as super consciousness. They achieve such consciousness through constant and prolonged spiritual practices such as meditation, mindfulness, selfless service, spiritual learning or deep devotion to the God or Deity of their choice. They could belong to any one or more of the religious or spiritual traditions of the world such as Zen Buddhism, Wu Wei, Theosophy, Hinduism, Sufism, esoteric Christianity and numerous others. When a person achieves super consciousness he/she is said to be in a field of infinite possibilities (see video below by Deepak Chopra). An AI could never do that because creativity in the field of infinite possibilities happens in a dataless state in super consciousness.

I am Infinite Possibilities - Youtube video by Deepak Chopra


As you watch the video above you will realize that the data we use is, among others, limited to our 'umwelt' which is what we could directly perceive within a narrow band of the electromagnetic spectrum, compared to what is available out there in the whole of the electromagnetic spectrum. I predict that we might one day be able to train AI to directly perceive more than what we can directly perceive (for example, being able to directly "see" gamma rays, microwaves, radio waves, x-rays etc that are around us) and make decisions based on that, like the way some animals do. Hence, some day in the future we might be able to train a robot to sniff drugs and bombs like the dogs do or ecolocate like bats do or detect infrared radiations like some animals do.

Currently we can only tune to a particular frequency of radio wave one at a time. Sometime in the very near future robots might be able to directly tune in and listen to all the radio waves passing through it simultaneously 24/7. Using radio waves, AI could already see people right through walls as discussed in this article.

My contention is, even if we achieve all that, it is still based on data being fed to the AI and not intuitive knowledge that humans are capable of.


My Predictions (Pure speculations - take it with a grain of salt!)

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As AI becomes more and more mainstream and progressively takes away mundane, physical or repetitive jobs from human beings, governments may legislate to reduce the working hours so that more people could get employed and people are likely to be pushed to pursue vocations involving the mind, soul and creativity such as the arts, humanities, scientific research and psychology.

Taking to vocations involving the mind and the soul and with more time on their hands, there is a high probability that humans will also gradually and naturally gravitate towards spiritual pursuits. As these shifts take place more and more people will be inclined towards spirituality or agnosticism rather than religiosity or atheism.

If that happens then the number of people acquiring super consciousness with the capacity to intuitively know the mysteries of the universe could rise in tandem.

Blessed be.

Yours, devann

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Entertaining article!

The connection of these things, besides the entertaining factor, doesn't really make sense to me.

Esoteric idea's don't really compute good for me in a technological context beyond playing with them like with sand castles.

The AI state we are in right now leaves lot's of room for imagination and creativity so some assumptions/predictions seem to be valid to me other's not.

Prophecies, especially if not grounded in some facts, mostly leave so much room for interpretation that they are simply fiction to me. Some fragments of those might by chance hit what happens, this then in turn is used the legitimize the prophecy as a whole, but most of them, especially if they try to engulf a larger time frame with a lot of single items, just turn out to be wrong.

A good way of giving prophecies, or a less controversial word would be prediction, merit is the work of Ray Kurzweil in the field of technological progression including AI. He has grounded his predictions on a set of data points and assumptions that have, for the most part, shown that they are often on point.

Cheers!

BTW: I was invited to comment on your article by @crypto.piotr. @crypto.piotr thanks for the invite!

Hi @doifeellucky,

To be frank I was having some difficulty to respond to your comment. You had completely ignored the discussion on intuition in my article and presumably equated it to prophecies and prediction to come up with your comments and I had to clear up my thought processes to clarify this mix-up.

At the time I wrote the article I was sure that great scientists and other inventors like Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin, and even Leonardo Da Vinci were highly intuitive people and had used intuition widely to achieve success in their respective fields. Personally I think these great scientists and inventors had access to super conscious states of being at more times than others and that gave them acute intuitive powers. No one in the right mind would reduce the initial ideas (of these scientists and inventors) based on intuition (which were subsequently proven scientifically or were made into useful inventions) to mere prophecies or predictions.

Here is a useful article on the issue I dug up today, which confirms my thoughts on the matter.

Our discussion is proving to be very useful to clarify and/or reinforce our original thoughts on the matter and I must thank you and others for the discussion we are having here.

As always I will be open to new thoughts or even contradictory views from your end to sharpen our thought processes.

Thanks once again for your contribution.

Hi Devann!

Thanks for your reply!

I try to be careful with my comments and usually narrow them down to what makes sense to me and I only extend this in a more general manner in very few instances.

I do not completely dismiss the idea of super consciousness but this again is esoteric speculation to me and not based on proven science as far as I know.

The article that you have referenced/linked is based on subjective experiences and anecdotes highlighting the importance of intuition and I wont critique that since I also, I guess all of us, have experiences that we attribute to intuition.

Nevertheless, to me to use intuition as a concept is a approach to dismiss the possibility of knowledge because in some instances we cannot quite put a finger on where this idea, unconfirmed knowledge, hunch, gut feeling ~intuition came from.

Like I wrote before, I'm having a hard time mixing esoteric ideas with science but I also know that in some instances fragments of esoteric ideas later became science.

In conclusion to your article and response, I won't dismiss that the intuition of some in regards to AI developments or a lot of other things are in fact a thing, I'm just not able to tie this to a superiority of people claiming to have super consciousness or an extraordinaire intuition.

Cheers and thanks again for commenting on my reply!

Thank you for accepting my invitation and sharing your amazing feedback with us @doifeellucky

Haribol I enjoy SRF Autobiography of a yogi, and Deepak Chopra. Thanks for the inspiring post.

Haribol, @julianhorack,

You are welcome and thanks for dropping by.

Blessed be, devann

Namaste @devann

I absolutely love publications related to AI. Great monday morning read :) Upvote on the way.

But humans are capable of discerning things intuitively, without data.

From what I've learned, AI can "fake" emotions already very well. I wonder AI would be able to "fake" intuition. It could analize whatever data it has and then add some randomization and would call it "intution" :)

The other prediction made was that mankind will discover that there are five different kinds of electricity.

WHAT? You got my full attention right now. I've never heard anyone saying that there may be different kind of electricity. I know that Nestla worked on wire-less electricity but ... that's not the same, right?

I'm not sure how would it be related to AI (I bet I will learn before I finish your post). However longer I read more I do have impression that I'm entering "hocus-pocus" and yet I cant stop reading :)

ps. Creating content with that many videos may discourage sometimes. Personally, whenever I cannot go and watch youtube - I always end up on steemit. So seeing publications sending me back to youtube makes me fell like ... OMG. WHYYY? :)

Again, great read buddy. Have a pleasent monday
Yours, Piotr

AI can "fake" emotions already very well.

and it can learn right from the scratch which we humans find difficult to learn. For example a full grown person who had not seen any humans would never be able to speak like others.

Exactly @akxd

ps. do you post anything except of dpolls? (which I'm not big fun)?

Cheers
Piotr

@crypto.piotr I had posted on many subjects in the past but now I am mostly using dpoll as it is convenient to use.

Namaste @devann, I like your article, the thinking about future possibilities and use cases for AI are always on my mind through my day-to-day life and I really agree that they might be so useful in the future - especially in the technology space what you have just mentioned. Good one!

Hey @ritxi, Besides being excited about the advances in the technological space, I am also excited about the side effects of these developments in the consciousness space, with which science has been floundering for a long time. We see some glimpse of hope with the works of scientists such as Robert Lanza, MD in this field.

Thank you for your contribution to the discussion. Blessed be.

This is a wonderful issue. I have been thinking about all these possibilities of the human and machine minds since I found the transhumanist philosophy.

You know, the problem lies in the lack of a good definitive notion of consciousness. Some people think that the capacity to manage data with a certain degree of independence is enough to claim the existence of a conscious thinking. Even the Turing Test sets a series of conditions that only implies the management of data.

But as you well said, there are many states of the human mind that annul such continuous data management but, in spite of that, they can be seen as the biggest expression of the consciousness (mindfulness). In those silent moments, the being is even more aware of his existence than when his brain was full of words.

Nonetheless, I find it amazing to question whether machines could, in the future, reach that mindful experience. A machine capable to wonder in mystical silence about its own existence... Amazing. We cannot deny that possibility.

Hi @spirajn

Appreciate your reasoned comment.

You know, the problem lies in the lack of a good definitive notion of consciousness. Some people think that the capacity to manage data with a certain degree of independence is enough to claim the existence of a conscious thinking.

So spot on. Whilst even the brilliant scientists are struggling with the concept of consciousness, there are many ordinary people who are not ashamed to make all kinds of claims.

Thanks for your participation in the discussion. Much appreciated.

Great post @devann!

Taking to vocations involving the mind and the soul and with more time on their hands, there is a high probability that humans will also gradually and naturally gravitate towards spiritual pursuits. As this shifts take place more and more people will be inclined towards spirituality or agnosticism rather than religiosity or atheism.

I believe that what your write can become true as long as the value generated by AI is equally distributed among humankind. The pursuit of spiritual goals is only possible if your belly is full and you have a roof over your head. So hopefully we will be clever enough to make AI profit everybody on the planet.

Best regards,
Achim

I believe that what your write can become true as long as the value generated by AI is equally distributed among humankind. The pursuit of spiritual goals is only possible if your belly is full and you have a roof over your head. So hopefully we will be clever enough to make AI profit everybody on the planet.

Yes, that is very true @achim03. Basic needs must be met before human beings are motivated to pursue higher goals. It is a practice in some monasteries and ashrams to serve food (especially to children) before spiritual instruction or practice begins. They know the importance of a full belly.

Blessed be, devann.

More important then reducing the working hours will be to reduce income tax.

In most western countries income tax + value added tax can easily exceed 50%.

With AI not having to pay income tax this could very quickly make human work so expensive that no amount of work hour reduction will make human work competitive.

Note that income tax is only about a hundred years old and might been one of the fundamental mistakes governments made in the last century.

hi @krischik

More important then reducing the working hours will be to reduce income tax.

Great point. I strongly believe that AI and robots need to be also taxed. Right now all human labour is fully taxed and it's obvious that with time this source of funds will be drying out.

@krischik, Agree with the points raised except a bit lost with this one:

With AI not having to pay income tax this could very quickly make human work so expensive that no amount of work hour reduction will make human work competitive.

Would you care to explain?

An AI you buy once. Then you have a service contract and general running cost. None of which are as highly taxed as human labour.

Human labour however is basically taxed twice: Via value added tax – which applies to AI as well — and income tax. Which only applied to human labour and making human labour uniquely expensive.

Got it, @krischik.

Thanks for the explanation, much appreciated.

Things may be different my friend. AI has capacity to learn by its own experience. Alphazero, a Chess engines based on AI, defeated the worlds most powerful chess engine stockfish badly. It is not possible for humans to defeat stockfish. Alphazero learned chess only in 4 hours by playing with itself. It had no database of opening and endgame but had the basic knowledge of playing. So, it tells about the power of AI.
On the conscientious level, we are the product of chemicals which are not conscientious as per our experience but they can make a highly intelligent animal like us. So, AI can also get consciousness despite of being generated from non living things. Eventually it will render us jobless and government would be forced to eliminate a great part of human population because that would become useless. This is the future of mankind.

Howdy dear friend @devann

There are a small select number of people living among us who are capable of harnessing these kinds of knowledge and creativity having attained a state of awareness known as super consciousness.

Undoubtedly one of these people "is" Siddharta Gautama.

My contention is, even if we achieve all that, it is still based on data being fed to the AI and not intuitive knowledge that humans are capable of.

As we know, AI feeds on our knowledge, our experiences.
It would be something totally extravagant if they invested resources in an AI that perceived and identified extrasensory vibrations.
Wow! My mind will explode.

Your friend, Juan.

Hello friend @juanmolina,

Undoubtedly one of these people "is" Siddharta Gautama.

If you are naming those who were with us then yes, Siddharta Gautama is one of them. There were many with super consciousness, who were with us. I would consider Leonardo da Vinci to be also one of them. He was known to be a polymath, which a human with super consciousness can achieve with ease. Saint Germain is another.

Wow! My mind will explode.

That is good my friend Juan! In super conscious state we do not use the mind; the mind becomes silent.

Thanks for the contribution to the discussion.

If you are naming those who were with us then yes...

I think they are still with us.

Dear @devann,

I understand that every human might want to connect to their inner self for whatever reason they have but for me, wholely relying on machines to do my normal tasks is detrimental to me. In some extent, machines might be able to help me clean the house, sort out my mail, clean my car or any other tasks I believe is fit for them. That is great because it frees me up to do things like spending time with my family, doing something that I love.

For me, the flip side of having machines- where a human will completely abandon his tasks to them and do something else is unimaginable. We need a purpose in life even if that purpose is waking up every day to make breakfast for ourselves. Don't get me wrong. having machines and intelligent machines around is great. But delegating all our tasks to them- that for me is wrong.

Dear @nurseanne84,

Hope you are still doing your Surya Namaskar daily to keep in shape!

Yes, you are right about the inner self. I believe as more and more tasks are taken over by ai, humans will begin to find ways and means to increasingly connect with and nourish their inner self. It may lead to an expansion in the consciousness of the humankind and may lead a better understanding of consciousness with which science has been struggling for a long time.

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.

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Namaste and thank you @crypto.piotr for sharing this post to me.

This is an interesting article @devann. I have read a little about the predictions and it is fascinating to note that some of them have come true.

Nadi and astrology are both amazing as people who lived long ago never had any technology or abundant resources that we have now and yet they found out about prophecies and planets through intuition. I have not found my nadi leaf but I have checked my birth chart and realized that it is quite accurate as I narrow the signs of planets down to constellations.

I don't think AI can ever be capable of intuition because it is a human attribute. Even most humans are still in the process of trying to understand what consciousness and intuition are. However, I think in future, AI might be programmed to fake intuition though it can't pass as real intuition since it should come from within.

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Thanks @yashny for your thoughts.

I don't think AI can ever be capable of intuition because it is a human attribute. Even most humans are still in the process of trying to understand what consciousness and intuition are. However, I think in future, AI might be programmed to fake intuition though it can't pass as real intuition since it should come from within.

I harbor the hope that the future developments in AI will trigger an intense interest and the attendant research in consciousness leading us to better understand it. Until such time, we have to continue debating whether AI is capable of attaining human consciousness.

Thank you for accepting my invitation and sharing your amazing feedback with us @yashny

Wow this us so interesting thanks AI is so amazing but also a bit scary possibly at what it can do? I have upvoted your post for you mate for visibility.

Thanks for your thoughts @steemingmark and thanks for dropping by. Much appreciated.

"Enlightenment" or "super-concious awareness" is not dependent on a "free humanity" (whether ...that freedom is somehow provided by AI or any other tech).

Humans will always find a way to enslave themselves, regardless of the level of comfort and health. Rather, all of those other facets will only be "beneficial" if the sea level of "humanity" achieves its cosmic destiny and people begin to embrace soul contact DESPITE the current levels of mundane toxicity in the spiritual atmosphere.

All external circumstance (for individual as well as group) simply mirrors internal state... that latter drives the former, advanced AI and metallurgical breakthroughs notwithstanding.

Thanks for your 'cryptic' response, @jbgarrison72.

All external circumstance (for individual as well as group) simply mirrors internal state... that latter drives the former, advanced AI and metallurgical breakthroughs notwithstanding.

Very true. But in their quest to make AI conscious, human beings are likely to be driven to fully understand consciousness and in the process could (hopefully) expand on their own consciousness.

Blessed be.

I'm not sure about this, for example, everyone who has eyes can see the first 6 planets in our solar system and their movements, so it's not that spectacular to think that some Indians managed it as well as all the other ancient people who were studying the sky too.
Also, I hope you're right about humans having to work less and having more time, but unfortunately, this myth has been around since the industrial revolution nearly 200 years ago. People just move into other work, for example, look at all the millions of lost souls in the 21st century sitting in front of computer screens all day, what a miserable existence. Similar to Charlie Chaplains idea of automation 100 years ago nearly, in the film 'Modern Times', its a nice idea, but I think humans will give in to machines in a similar way to what is shown in the film Terminator.

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Hi @justinchicken, You are right about the planets being observable by naked eyes. If I remember it right, it is 5 planets and not 6. Being observable and describing their characteristics matching the present day astronomy are not the same. For the sake of completeness and clarity I should have said that they described 7 planets (only 5 are observable with the naked eye) in detail matching the present day astronomy. It is my error. Apologies.

As for the issue on "humans having to work less and having more time" I did preface the section of the article with the qualification "Pure speculations - take it with a grain of salt". Perhaps you missed reading that.

Actually I thought about writing something along the lines you wrote but then decided that it will be the same old rote line everybody takes and decided to write something different for fun and preface it with the qualification.

Anyway thanks for dropping by. Much appreciated.

I find that the past is very easy to predict. The future requires extensive knowledge, good theoretical foundations and lots of luck. If anything, I see lots of uncertainty. Brexit is a great example. Who could have anticipated Boris Johnson 's constitutionally risky no deal gambit and its spectacular failure? Will the Conservative Party continue in something resembling its current form? These questions and more depend on predicting the actions of unpredictable people.

On the other hand, many well -understood natural phenomena are completely predictable. What time will the Sun rise where you are in 100 years? The difference between these problems is uncertainty. I'm the natural world, many individual events are only predictable in the aggregate: quantum phenomena, earthquakes, etc.

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@rufusfirefly,

The term "naadi astrology" is a very misleading way of describing the phenomena because they are not predicting anything there. They are actually stating with accuracy a person's life - the past, present and the future. That is why anyone who is destined to get it read to them, comes out shocked and shaken after the reading.

That is one of the reasons why I used the term "Naadi Divination" in my article. However many people continue using the term "Naadi Astrology" and contribute to the confusion and the attendant muddled discussion.

As for natural phenomena and national issues, I am not aware of "naadi divination" dealing with such matters.

Thank you very much for dropping by. Much appreciated.

Hello @devann!

It is impressive to know that there are many things hidden in this world and to know that there are also books that can explain your whole life. I mean, it's all written down? everything that's going to happen? Is there any way to change what is going to happen? It's hard for the person who knows all of this and can't change what's going to happen. Who knows if he/she did it, isn't it?

By the way, I was more interested to know about that Naadi Palm Reading than about AI, hehehehe 😄

Hi @jadams2k18,

When I first had my palm leaf manuscript read to me I asked the same questions.

The palm leaves do not explain the whole life. It only records down the lives of persons who are destined to have it read to them. Even those who get to have it read to them, do not get to know everything about their lives. They are told only what they "ought' to know. For instance, some are told when and how they will die and many are not told. The reason for it is that many cannot handle the knowledge of when and how they will die.

Is everything destined? No. Even the manuscript reader ('astrologer') himself will tell you that. In fact the manuscript itself prescribes certain remedies to overcome undesired events of the future. Personally, I think, you can also overcome it by your own will power and grace of your own Lord (provided you have sufficient faith in Him). Grace doesn't work without faith, in my view.

Thanks for your comments. Blessed be.

I like what you wrote. Why know the future if you can't change it... I like to know that even what is written can also be modified.

Hi dear @devann

Wow. Thank you for this wonderful publication.

Every day people learn something new. and with this reading are born many desire to know more about those great books, I am sincere with you and all who read me, I had never heard of those readings,

My new task is to research those books.

Now, with regard to IA, I believe that there are still many questions that will be clarified over time.

To me in particular they made me to be born in my thoughts new questions, that you will develop in some new publications that I will realize.

From Venezuela he sent you many blessings and a hug that crosses all the oceans...

Hi dear @lanzjoserg,

I look forward to your publication(s) on this subject friend. It is wonderful that you are open to know more about this abstruse subject.

Blessed be.

devann

Hi @devann
Namaste! I really like your approach to this post. The way it unfolds represents the journey of a seeker that in this case is you @devann.

I completely relate to the point

I consider knowledge is of two kinds: knowledge acquired through data and knowledge acquired intuitively without data.

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But humans are capable of discerning things intuitively, without data.

My own experience in this regard is that by being in a state of meditation we can cut out the external noise and connect to a higher awareness and knowledge unfolds its self. That is a trans like state and can me short lived and needs a lot of practice to attain and remain in that state.

You speak of

The other prediction made was that mankind will discover that there are five different kinds of electricity. The author posits that the five senses in our body are made possible by these five different kinds of electricity. So far we have not seen any evidence of this yet but it looks like a very interesting proposition.

My interpretation of this is as follows. Human body is made of 5 elements or tatvas as is mentioned in the Sanskrit scriptures.
They are Fire, Earth, Air, Water and Ether or space
They are all inanimate but have latent energy when they come together. The human body is formed. Since these 5 elements come together in the formation of the human body thus they can be refereed to as 5 kinds of electricity.

Coming to the AI part

Taking to vocations involving the mind and the soul and with more time on their hands, there is a high probability that humans will also gradually and naturally gravitate towards spiritual pursuits.

This is certainly a novel take on AI and I certainly hope we humans take this route and become more human in the process.

Thanks @crypto.piotr for helping me in getting here :)

Hey @thetimetravelerz,

It is great to know another kindred spirit.

My own experience in this regard is that by being in a state of meditation we can cut out the external noise and connect to a higher awareness and knowledge unfolds its self. That is a trans like state and can me short lived and needs a lot of practice to attain and remain in that state.

Yes, you are right about it being short lived and needing a lot of practice. But even the short lived experience of it can do wonders.

My interpretation of this is as follows. Human body is made of 5 elements or tatvas as is mentioned in the Sanskrit scriptures.
They are Fire, Earth, Air, Water and Ether or space
They are all inanimate but have latent energy when they come together. The human body is formed. Since these 5 elements come together in the formation of the human body thus they can be refereed to as 5 kinds of electricity.

After reading the above comment of yours, I decided to do a google search for the book (The Holy Science) that carried the prediction (the book refers to it as the 'truth', which means it is not a prediction) and below is the extract from the book:

The five sorts of electricity can be easily understood if one will direct his attention to the nerve properties, which are purely electrical in nature. Each of the five sensory nerves has its characteristic and unique function to perform. The optic nerve carries light and does not perform the functions of the auditory and other nerves; the auditory nerve in its turn carries sound only, without performing the functions of any other nerves, and so on. Thus it is clear that there are five sorts of electricity, corresponding to the five properties of cosmic electricity.

Thank you very much for contributing to this discussion. Much appreciated.

Does humanity have a soul?
If humans have no soul,
That human being is just a very advanced AI.
So I believe that the future AI will be even better than humans.

@devann, In simple terms i have to say that, if Artificial Intelligence will dominate this world then in my opinion this world will going to converted into a Emotionless place. Stay blessed and keep up the good work.

Yes @chireerocks, you are right. They say feelings are the language of the soul. We cannot expect AI to have a soul or speak the language of the soul.

Thanks for your positive vibes. Stay blessed.

Welcome and thank you so much.

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Enjoyed your post. Glad India found their rover. Hopefully they can get it going again.

Glad you enjoyed the post, @cyemela.

Thanks for dropping by. Blessed be.

Very good post, that whole world of AI appears to me, the problems with those emerging phenomena that cannot be controlled, by the random phenomenon

Glad you enjoyed the post, @necho41.

Blessed be, devann

Interesting publication, excellent, I just want to note that in the first example you give the proposal that there are five types of electricity seems crazy, that is my opinion, there is the phrase "nobody has the whole truth" I guess the light material, but the other who knows, you also do not believe that geniuses that have existed would have also appeared, like Tesla who mastered that knowledge exactly. Greetings.

It is an exciting time to be alive for sure!

On one hand, AI and the revolution it is bringing is EXCITiNG. Like you talked about, it can free up our time, allowing us to explore more of the internal mind and external space. Predictive AI opening up a world of anything you want before you want it. Potential to launch us into the next level of evolution. Freeing us from the bonds of money, greed, and hunger.

On the other hand, I watch Walle. (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/) The humans in that film were victims of an AI that predicted all they needed and provided for them. What is the AI becomes smart and just wants to give us all to make us happy, we may lose the ability to think threw problems. We see this already in our kids. They have access to computers so their ability to overcome problems and find solutions sans-computer/internet is low, compared to a few generations back that could critically think.

Do we take critical thinking and outsource it to an AI deep dream-like program? If we lose our abilities to think in unique ways that do not rely on computers, are we still humans or just a part of the network?

In all regards, exciting times and I am eager to see where this crazy train takes us.

Greetings @devann, I arrived here on the recommendation of a friend (@crypto.piotr) who sent me a memo to notify me of it. I start by saying that this great and very well documented, called much my antenna in several aspects.

Starting with the new ways of generating electricity, ¡wow! I had never thought about that, it sounds great because who knows it could be possible to generate energy in a substantially less polluting way and as not cheaper for everyone.

And in second aspect that you mention on that we can become important for the IA in that they do not have natural intuition as we do, but I do not find it strange (it should be noted is my full theory) that with time and the study of human behavior by the IA can come to have something very similar and perhaps barely can be wrong as human intuition, something interesting to see in the future.

And of course, what you mention of the state of superconsciousness, I have seen other programs about this on certain television channels some time ago, and if it sounds interesting, maybe as you say because of technology has lost that gift (to call it in some way) and as you raise if people devote more to the spiritual field could be taken back at some point again that state, another interesting thing to see in the future.

Thank you @crypto.piotr for sending it, as I told you in the last comment, I'm pending with the old memos, I'm going slowly because I'm taking time, for nothing I would miss those great recommendations.

So far my comment, I do not leave without wishing you a good day, afternoon or night

Hey @jjqf,

Thanks for your comments and for dropping by.

Starting with the new ways of generating electricity, ¡wow! I had never thought about that, it sounds great because who knows it could be possible to generate energy in a substantially less polluting way and as not cheaper for everyone.

I think the five different kinds of electricity would be very helpful for the development of humanoid robots, where the robots will be able to taste, smell, hear, see and sense the same way humans do using these different kinds of electricity.

Blessed be.

Greetings again @devann, happy Sunday or Monday, that would be great, imagine those dangerous jobs for humans (jobs at high altitude, or jobs where there are potential risks of falling objects at high altitude, etc.), instead of risking human lives, you could use these humanoid robots for such purposes ... something that would revolutionize everything...

I liked your publication, it has everything, it goes from the spiritual to the science, but the most probable thing about that prediction is that it is about imagination, everything depends on who imagines it, Einstein imagined and coroboro (mathematically) something that this year will We could see how the black hole was, long ago man stopped believing in the senses to believe in reason. Regards

Very good post, it puts you to think the millions of possibility of the future, I am surprised that "sense" that the human prediction has many things, I was surprised by the old manuscripts, if there is that possibility that artificial AI can overcome human senses , there is also the possibility that AI learns to have that "sense" of prediction without data, in the end we are biological machines that make non-biological machines.

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Excellent your publication, I like that desire of you from the future, but that will not happen, there will be problems as it is being seen now, if AI is developed to replace human labor, it will bring unemployment, famine and social conflicts, if There will be your exception as always, but it won't be the rule.

I for one welcome our new AI overlords.

Yes, @klye, let's welcome the new AI overlords who go limp without electric power and data!

Are you serious @klye? :)

One thing that your article brings up outside of my aviation interests and modern innovation in composites is the idea of cell towers and satellites. Why are there not discussions, or at least conspiracy theories that the brain can pick up these waves? Maybe they are not translated the way they are with digital devices, but if they can cause cancer, then what other interaction do we have with them.

Hi @machnbirdsparo,

Interesting argument, but I see a problem with it.

You seem to be implying that because the waves can cause cancer, there should be interaction between the waves and the brain and therefore the brain can "pick up" (receive) these waves.

Whilst interaction between the two cannot be denied, I don't think we can say that necessarily means the brains is a receiver of the waves. In other words, the brain could have interacted with and have been affected by waves without it being an active "receiver" of the waves.

I tried to no make assumption. Merely fuel the discourse :)

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This has been something I've known for awhile and lots of people in Africa and some parts of Asia know of people who can predict the future and tell you about your past. As to whether AI so get there in this lifetime, I doubt.

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