Technically Lazy
I was up last night trying to get my computer sorted out, as after I plugged it back in and set it up, it was again having the same issue of shutting down - even though the repair shop couldn't locate the problem, as all components were working fine and they had it running for three days without incident. So, I decided to again use my lacking powers of deduction.
When I first started it up, everything ran fine for a few hours before shutting down again and then, it was shutting down after a couple minutes. It isn't an overheating problem, so I tried to see if it was some kind of peripheral or dongle issue. So, one by one I used each thing individually and then slowly adding them one by one to see if I could replicate the crash.
Firstly, other than a single monitor, I used a wired keyboard as the only input interface, then added a wired mouse after about an hour of no event. Still no event. So I switched over to a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Still nothing. I changed over the monitor with my second screen, all good. Then, I added both monitors together and things were working, then a crash.
Well, that is something.
A process of switching the ports over on different inspecting and changing HDMI cables over, as one goes into HDMI and one goes in to a Display Port with an adapter. So, this meant making sure that either screen, the cables, or the adapter weren't the problem.
All good.
So, it is either a port issue on the Graphics card, or a driver issue with the graphics card. Obviously, a driver issue is preferrable. All the drivers are up to date, but as I mentioned to the repair people, when the problem started and when I checked, windows had updated a few hours earlier. I had checked all the drivers and everything was updated there, but if they could check again. Which they supposedly did.
But, unfortunately, saying up to date and being up to date might be two different things, because I went to Nvidia, downloaded the latest update for the graphics card, which was dated 4 days after the windows update that seemingly caused the issue, manually installed it and so far, it hasn't had an issue. Both monitors are working, it was on overnight without incident and fingers crossed, the problem is dealt with.
This took me far too long to handle.
I don't blame the repair guys, as everything was working as expected on a single monitor, so they likely didn't plug in a second. And, even if they had, with different monitors, the problem might not have occurred.
It is frustrating though as this has been ongoing for about three weeks and caused a huge amount of hassle to my workflow, my office setup, as well as driving from place to place. But, I am glad that at least the largest financial cost was the 20€ for a diagnosis that didn't find any issues with the components. If I had been doing this myself, after checking the drivers which would have been up to date, I would have likely changed the power supply, as that seemed the most likely culprit. That would have been between 150 and 200€, and require me to do hours of YouTube learning, as I am not that proficient.
All up, it took many, any hours.
And this is where I will bring in a bit of a question. I do my fair share of work around the house, mowing the lawns and general gardening, laundry, dishes, vacuuming etc, yet my wife likely spends more time on the house cleaning generally. However, she spends zero time on the technical enablement of our home, meaning that she doesn't do any of the setup, and if there is a problem, none of the troubleshooting, repairing, or the like. And because she does none of this, she tends to discount it as work, underestimating how much time and energy actually goes into it. For her she says "this isn't working" and then walks away.
I suspect that this is similar in most households these days and as our technical footprint increases, the burden of time spent goes up. As does the need to learn about the various pieces of equipment from the user side, to the maintenance side.
I read articles where predominantly women complain about their lazy husbands that don't help them enough, but at some point, are there going to be calls to reduce the burden "Stay at home IT support"? Should wives and girlfriends (WAGs 😂) be pressured into taking some of the technical load in the home, at least on the components that are shared, like TV, PCs, gaming consoles (we don't have one), and appliances?
Or perhaps equality only goes one way.
Or maybe, this is a domain that men don't want to give up, as it might be one of the last bastions of relevance we can hold onto in the home and if we lose it, we are completely useless.
What do you think?
Make your arguments!
Taraz
[ Gen1: Hive ]
I feel it whole day laziness lol
:D
That is interesting your wife doesn't see that as work. Although it is not physically labor intensive, it can be mentally draining as you well know. My wife is not very technical and leaves all the home tech to me. I prefer it that way as well. My youngest son helps occasionally, but I just prefer it be in my hands. It gives me something to do anyway.
She doesn't see it as her work, so just expects it will get magically done. It is like the magic coffee table:
As said - we might end up useless otherwise! :D
I'll admit there is a magic sink at our house. Hell, I feel useless already. Figuring that out currently as per my newest post.
As a fellow home tech support personnel, yeah it definitely feels like a burden sometimes. Especially when there isn't much appreciation or mismatched expectations. I do enjoy fixing things so I'm not ready to give it up just yet lol.
We should create a union and fight for better working conditions.
I've experienced a laptop issue where the charger wasn't charging.
I ordered a new charger. Still not working.
I opened the chassis looking for a loose cable or burn on a capacitor.
Looked very laptop sexy inside. Acer Nitro is a nice laptop.
Needed dust removed from the fans.
Issue: the pins in the charging port must have aged with overuse.
Solution: Using a toothpick to rub the metal contacts & lever the side pins a little.
Runs ok so far
Laptops are something I know so little about inside them. I guess it shouldn't be too difficult to learn, but I have "fear" with them.
This sounds like technical masturbation.
Good that it is working though.
yes, women will also learn IT when they can drive buses, etc. A few years ago, women started driving the bus here. today everyone is used to it.
Plenty of women truck and bus drivers here. There are plenty of female engineers too, but still they don't seem to get into the home IT work.
What is your opinion on LGBT? in our country, it is spreading more and more. I find it too much
What do you mean what do I think about it? People can be whoever they want to be.
someone is against it, someone approves of it. Some people find it excessive. what I sometimes see on TV is enough for me.
Central Europe (Czech Republic) is not yet completely ready. what country are you from?
Australia - but live in Finland. What I don't like is the focus put on all of this, when there are so much more important things we could be spending our time on.
I agree, good luck, I'm going to take another trip today, I wish you a pleasant Saturday
Troubleshooting is tedious and time consuming, often sheer frustration finding the gremlin. Definitely men tend to tackle the job sooner than counterpart.
Most woman logically think any implement should work, just plug it in...., men more instinctively intrigued as to how things work, dive in to dismantle fault finding mission.
Woman on their own with no partner able to assist it is good to have some knowledge, whatever you learn is never totally lost.
There are definitely generalized differences between the sexes, which I think is part of building a solid community. if everyone is the same, there is no need to cooperate.
Ad yes, I believe everyone should have some skills, even if that is being able to Google well enough to find the solutions to follow.
Life would be totally boring without differences, some have strengths one way, others in another.
I'm actually seeing it the other way. I don't think you are lazy since that is not your job. Now, the people at the repair shop are the ones who I feel are lazy. Do you know why?
I feel for you to have taken the system to them, they know that something is wrong with it. Even if they tried it and it was working fine, they should try to locate any problem or even try to check all the things that may be wrong with the system...
Well, that's what I feel and that is what an experienced repairer should do...
They did try of course and far more than they got paid for in time, but, I think they didn't have much chance with this one. However, I will message them on Monday and let them know the issue, just in case it helps them in the future.
the eternal battle of sexes
This is where I feel like I got lucky. My wife is no technical guru, but she surely knows a few workarounds when it comes to tech. She also acknowledges the skill, knowledge and effort it takes to work on such devices, and I say that's rare.
Everyone more or less should try and learn about the basics, whether it be a clean Windows installation, GPU driver upgrade/downgrade, or even the easy plug in and out fixes. These come in handy, and will always save you a trip to the repair shop.
You are lucky!
And yes. If I die, my family will have to become hunter gatherers again. Though, my wife is pretty, so I am sure she can score an IT professional.
It seems like you've got it all planned in your head already. 😂
The Mrs. does Tier 1 level support on her tech. After she does all the basic troubleshooting, she escalates the issue to Tier 2. Usually, the problem resolves itself just by me showing up. We rarely reach Tier 3, which is when I actually have to get involved.
She's willing to attempt to fix tech things as I tell her that in the worst case it just requires a factory reset. She can't mess things up so badly by trying that a reset won't work.
That is not too bad. I really wouldn't want my wife working on my PC anyway - but if she could mow the lawn once in a while! :D
Easy. Turn the whole lawn into a garden.
I completely agree with you as I suffer the same problem.
Luckily, my wife has an IT support team at her work and after several years of fixing her IT issues I ended up telling her to call the support team at her company, now after struggling even with support, she values more when I fix it for her.
Also, I use Mac equipment and she uses Windows. It is amazing the amount of time you save with Mac equipment, having the same company dealing with the hardware and operating system makes the whole difference.
Yeah, Macs are more stable. MY wife's company use Macs, so I can't help her much, though I end up having to YouTube details for her phone issues. Not issues as much as the way they work - I am PC and Android literate.
Speaking of tech lazy women I realized after years of observing apple tech, why people who choose apple do so. Androis fragmented and you have to keep tab on the ecosystem for too long. Even if someone tries to be apple in the android world ends up creating more issues and bugs and expensive in long run.I understand why women especially like apple and it's not just for status or show.
Yeah, it is far easier and they are stable, because they don't have to configure for a million variations.
Tech support is my department too. Something doesn’t work, I have trained them to restart the device and this solves so many issues. After that, it becomes my department.
It is a good thing I have 30 years of building and using and destroying computers, which is inevitable. Also, I have a team of nerds in the headset when I login to discord and a couple technicians I can escalate to at work.
It does sound like a windows problem that eventually gets better (when they patch the patch that caused the problems with the patch, and the rest of the drivers get patched to patch the patch…)or a power thing.
Do you use a good UPS? They are great for the blackouts but also protect the components during brown outs when voltage gets screwy but doesn’t disappear completely. Also, power supplies on prebuilt computers tend to be purposely underpowered so that they fail early and you have to purchase again. I select my own parts, then overprovision the power supply which must be as heavy as a brick. I don’t wanna jinx it but I get way too many years out of a computer and make sure I refresh my ups every couple years.
Power supplies die and motherboards must have solid state capacitors or they will eventually pop and take everything with it. Might be time to buy a new toy! Prices have come down huge on video cards (most expensive component when you are a gamer or designer) to the timing is right.
This is something I don't have at all. The power supply in Finland is so incredibly stable, I suspect only a tiny fraction of people have a UPS.
I built my last one, but this is a kit. The kit with the same specs as I would have built was about 20% cheaper at the time, which I found incredible. How can it be cheaper than an own build??
This one is less than a year old though! :D
Next bull market though...
Men and women can find a balance in the house as well. Women are the "maternal ones" spending more time making sure that everything is at their place and the family can be healthy and safe. That's the Shakti part of life.
Men take care that things have a sense in the house, avoiding spending too much efforts on useless things and supporting with what they usually have more, a rational and analytical skill.
I hope it does not sounds "sexualist". It's just something from the tantric tradition (thousands of years of studies)
Nah, I get where you are coming from. Men and women are in general different. It is silly to think that there is equality in skills and interests.
That's it. I find also silly all these fights for gender equality.
Gender equality for equal dignity is a must. But men and women are intrinsically different
Glad you got it sorted out.
I once had a problem where I turned the computer on and it was stuck on the BIOS screen, I tried everything! Everything!
One Day I decided to pack it up and head over to a friend's house and we would go over everything together but when I turned it on there it worked fine... Windows loaded and I was beyond confused....
Went back home plugged it in and there it was stuck on the BIOS screen once again.... Turned out it was my keyboard keeping it from booting up.... The damned keyboard can you imagine?
!BEER
Lol. Yeah, it is stupid what can cause issues. This was triggering the mains board fuse for god's sake. WTF?
I guess we need to hang onto our one last bastion! IT work is hard work and very draining. I don't currently have a wife so I don't get to hear her complain about laziness (thank God.) As much as I hate to admit it my time is more valuable working and not fighting with computer issues so I usually hire someone to help me out. Saves on the headaches too. Too bad she doesn't appreciate your IT time as work, because it truly is work! And at least you help out with the other cleaning duties.
Yep. With my work PC, it is pretty much straight to IT. With my home one, I used to tinker a lot and work through it. Now that I think of it - this was actually the first time I have ever taken a PC for repair.
She would like me to help out more - because I am better at it than her ;D
You ever see the videos of the guys that purposely loosen something and then pretend to spend the rest of the day fixing it? I call that genius my friend.
one day, she will work it out and loosen the brake fluid line on his car.
A way to view all the task we do at home or better said, in our household, as work. Whatever time spend, on whatever tasks, whether we do the tasks because we have to, or we actually like to execute such task.
However, we could also try and redefine this? Make it a bit more fair perhaps? Perhaps some of the tasks within the household we carry out, we really like doing? Would it be fair to rate such tasks at same levels with tasks we don’t like to execute?
I tend to rate tasks I like, not being work. Now it may look like I go through life rating all the time, but this happens at uncounsious levels I suppose. What I known is that whenever a discussion starts about my own contributions, when it is considered a too small contribution, I never think of all the time I spend executing tasks I like to benefit the household. I suppose its in my nature to qualify only those tasks that I don’t like as work.
This is an interesting question. My wife says she doesn't like to do some tasks, but at the same time, she likely gets some satisfaction out of doing them still. She should be paying me for the privilege of not doing it for her. :D
I think we all do, but we aren't necessarily honest. I see Hive as work, even though I love writing, because I see it as something that is adding value to others also, not just myself. The "leisure" of life is for my benefit, even though others might benefit too.
😂😂😂
Let me know what she says when you tell here 🙃
Interesting. Sometimes I add HIVE to my workload. At other times it feels not work at all and wont call it work.
I don't understand why you have to work with your own PC/Laptop. Here, your company give it to you. If ever broken down, they have to repair it or replaced it with a working one. Perhaps, it is different in Finland.
No, I have a work one too. But, I also have a personal one that I use for my own business and crypto stuff. I do not put much on my work one, because it isn't mine.
If my work laptop dies, IT will repair or replace it in minutes. They even put more RAM in mine :)
Yea, and I like it. However, I remember that I formatted my work laptop on my own because the personal from IT was busy :)
I do small things myself if at home, but if in the office, I just visit IT, as they are good guys and I like to have a chat. These days, even at home they could access of course, which is also why I don't do much crypto stuff on my work laptop.
I definitely get put in charge of all the tech stuff, including paying the Wi-Fi bill! It is underappreciated a bit maybe, like knowing where the right wires are and having the right input setting, but generally even I don't have to do that much sleuthing around the drivers.
Since I went Linux in 2011 I have much more free time and less troubleshooting, hair pulling, scream at the computer, insanity. Heheheh, I performed a software exorcism to remove the curse of Billy Gates shortly after Microsloth Windblows accused me of being a "Pirate"
Arrrggg the dirty landlubber scoundrel Billy Gates and his Bloatware/Spyware.!!!
I was downgrading back to Win7 from a horrible experience with Win10. It tried to lock me out of my own laptop and report me when I had a legitimate bought and paid for key for my old version... "Asshole Microslobs Windposers"
My @pooky-jax still has Billy Gates the bioterrorist's horrible OS. That he stole from his college mates. She has to have it for her work. She hates it also. I refuse to deal with it's never ending issues and she now knows our pain bro... 🤣 😆
I don't have knowledge of hardware, so anytime my laptop have an issues i don't waste time but to take it back to the vendor for the repair work.
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