John Hutchison Interview on the Elaine Smitha Show (2000): Skunk Works

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ln this video I have uploaded another very rare 2000 interview of John Hutchison on the Elaine Smitha Show titled: Skunk Works - A Peek at our Future... Star Trek Style. John Hutchison discusses his involvement with the 1980s Star Wars program and how the US and Canadian governments classified the Hutchison Effect experiments he did for them. When John went to Germany in hopes of immigrating there, the Canadian government illegally confiscated all 22 tons of his lab equipment but left the metal samples and documents. Video clips from Dr. Thomas McDonough, Col. John Alexander, and Boyd Bushman are also presented. John also discusses the 1943 Philadelphia experiment and the similarities with his experimental setup. Finally, a rare levitation experiment is shown of a ball jumping in a bucket of water.

This interview is likely the only instance of it being published online anywhere on the internet!

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Full Timestamps

  • Intro: 0:00
  • Disclaimer and musical intro: Skunk Works - A Peek at our Future... Star Trek Style: 0:20
  • Interview start. John Hutchison is showing off his muscles: 0:52
  • John is a big fan of Star Trek, and discusses his adventures through US and Canadian Customs. Demonstrated the crystal converter to customs: 1:52
  • Skunk Works, black budgets, and the Military Industrial Complex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_Works 5:28
  • Canadian government confiscated John's lab while he was in Europe (Germany) looking to move all his equipment there: 6:52
    • 22 tons of mostly Tesla machinery were illegally taken, costing tax payers $20,000.
    • John wasn't allowed to use the Tesla equipment, so he sold everything off, and was going to immigrate to Germany but ended up visiting Japan.
  • Japanese interests motivated John to retrieve his documents and samples. Canadian government only took the machinery: 8:45
  • John performed 5 major levitation tests in Ottawa for Canadian and US governments: 10:13
  • TLC TV clip: Astrophysicist Dr. Thomas McDonough examines the Hutchison Effect: https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/mcdonough_thomas_r 15:26
  • Col. John Alexander discusses his work with John Hutchison and Los Alamos National Laboratory: 18:23
    • Alexander visited and filmed John's Vancouver lab in 1983.
  • TLC TV clip of Boyd Bushman and Nick Cook on Anti-Gravity: 22:34
  • John shows his 1998 extruded aluminum bar ripped apart: 24:58
    • Canadian coins imprinted into the aluminum as it turned to jelly. One copper coin merged into it.
    • Wood is attracted to aluminum in his tests.
    • Pure atomic elements are found as deposits in his samples.
    • John uses high frequency broad band and up to 24 cm narrow band waves within an electrostatic field.
  • John discusses steel samples that had transmutation at the end of it, turning soft into another material: 30:12
    • One steel sample formed a silicon, iron, copper combination, which was impossible as a conventional alloy.
  • George Liscazis of Pinnacle Oil filmed a 1,500 pound transformer levitating: https://hutchisoneffect.com/ 31:40
  • Mill Ball levitation experiment was done 3 walls away from the lab:
34:00
  • John discusses the Philadelphia Experiment or Project Invisibility made the USS Eldridge warship disappear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment 37:58
    • In 1982, John tried to tighten up his frequencies to replicate the Philadelphia Experiment via the work of "Dr. Guy Balinski"(?) from New York.
    • Some of John's experiments were semi-transparent, as said by "Dr. Eli Quine"(?) head of DSTI, director of Scientific Technical Intelligence of Canada.
    • CSIC: Canadian Security Intelligence Service holds John's classified videos as a "matter of national security"... https://www.canada.ca/en/security-intelligence-service.html
  • Bodies were stuck within the USS Eldridge walls, similar to the Hutchison Effect: 41:39
    • Elaine interviewed Alfred Bielek whom claimed to be on the warship during the experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment
    • John says 1940s technology dealt with heavy duty equipment with high voltages, great for many experiments including levitators.
  • Practical application of the Hutchison Effect is the elimination of nuclear waste: 44:09
  • John recounts Gene Roddenberry pitching the pilot episode of Star Trek to NBC Studios: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roddenberry 52:02
  • Rare Hutchison Effect of a happy face ball in container of water levitating, jumping, and vibrating: 55:28
  • Musical outro: 56:23
  • Experiment Screenshots

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    Exploring the Hutchinson Effect: An Insight into Anti-Gravity Technologies

    The universe of science is vast and mysterious, often hiding remarkable innovations that lie beyond the reach of mainstream awareness. One such brilliant mind illuminating this hidden frontier is John Hutchinson, an inventive spirit known for his work on anti-gravity devices and the phenomenon he coined the "Hutchinson Effect." This article delves into his intriguing journey, his experiences, and the implications of his groundbreaking discoveries.

    The Journey Begins

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    John Hutchinson, described by Elaine Smitha as an amateur scientist, certainly possesses the drive and curiosity of a professional. His journey into the world of scientific experimentation expresses a passion for exploring the uncharted territories of physics, particularly the connections between electricity, magnetism, and gravity. This exploration diverges from conventional paths, placing him on the fringes of scientific inquiry, where his work remains largely unsupported by mainstream academia.

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    Hutchinson's reputation for thinking outside of the scientific norm leads to entertaining anecdotes—particularly his experiences crossing borders while carrying experimental equipment. Often detained and questioned by customs due to the unconventional nature of his metal samples and other high-voltage apparatus, he encounters both skepticism and intrigue from customs officers amazed by his work.

    The Mysterious Skunk Works

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    One of the main themes discussed during Hutchinson's interview with Elaine is the concept of "Skunk Works"—a term related to highly classified military projects involving significant financial investments in experimental technologies, such as gravitational propulsion systems and biological sciences. Hutchinson notes his involvement in these classified early projects during the Ronald Reagan Star Wars initiative, cementing his connection to a realm of science that often remains concealed from public discourse.

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    His experiences also include a government raid on his lab in British Columbia, which resulted in the confiscation of 22 tons of his experimental Tesla machinery. Despite such challenges, Hutchinson continues to showcase his experimental results, forging forward through the barriers frequently erected by bureaucratic systems.

    The Hutchinson Effect

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    The core of Hutchinson's work is the "Hutchinson Effect," where certain high-voltage experiments have purportedly allowed for the levitation and manipulation of various materials—anything from metals to odd collections like ice cream. His experiments, some of which were recorded and shared within classified military channels, have intrigued numerous scientists and sparked conversations about their potential applications in advanced propulsion systems.

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    Hutchinson's utilization of a combination of high-voltage devices, including Tesla coils and Van de Graaff generators, creates electromagnetic fields that can cause the strange behaviors of materials. This leads to astonishing phenomena, such as the ability to levitate objects—or what Hutchinson describes as turning metal into a jelly-like state that retains shape once the electromagnetic field is removed. Such properties raise profound implications for the future of material science and gravitational manipulation.

    The Implications of Advanced Technologies

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    During the interview, the conversation inevitably leads to the societal implications of Hutchinson's discoveries. He expresses the hope that this anti-gravity technology could be used to address pressing global issues, such as the handling of nuclear waste. Explaining that his technology could potentially eliminate nuclear materials, Hutchinson highlights the importance of advancing scientific frontiers in ways that can benefit humanity.

    Furthermore, Hutchinson considers the potential for propulsion technologies that could revolutionize space travel by making it significantly less financially burdensome. Such advancements, if realized, could align closely with speculative ideas popularized by science fiction, bringing concepts like those seen in Star Trek closer to reality.

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    Bridging Science and Science Fiction

    Interestingly, Hutchinson also identifies as a devoted fan of Star Trek, donning pins from the show to express his admiration for the vision it presents regarding the future of science and technology. His personal journey intertwines with the science fiction narrative, suggesting a powerful connection between imaginative storytelling and scientific exploration.

    The visionary ideas presented in Star Trek, as discussed in the interview, resonate with Hutchinson's work. They evoke enthusiasm for exploring the possibilities that lie within scientific inquiry, bridging imagination and reality in ways that inspire innovation.

    Concluding Thoughts

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    John Hutchinson’s explorations in the realm of the Hutchinson Effect have invited both intrigue and skepticism, but the dedication with which he pursues his work cannot be understated. His unique experiences reflect the broader narrative of scientists pushing against the boundaries of knowledge and the societal implications of their findings.

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    The dialogue surrounding anti-gravity technology, material manipulation, and the potential to meet global challenges with innovative solutions continues to spark interest, and Hutchinson’s contributions remain a significant chapter in this evolving tale of science. The intersection of imagination and experimentation holds potential that promises to chart new courses for future generations. As we continue to unravel the enigmatic relationship between gravity, magnetism, and energy, perhaps we will discover pathways reminiscent of the fantastic worlds we envision in science fiction.

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