Ecency Delegation Experiment – An Experiment to Determine Whether Delegating to Ecency Is the Optimal Option for Actively Posting Newcomers: Week 16

On March 4th, 2023, I announced an experiment of delegation to Ecency to prove that it’s probably the most profitable (in terms of APY) delegations feasible for a newcomer who posts frequently.

Here are the results of this week’s delegation with Ecency, and following this, a legend of the columns used, as well as a bit of analysis of the week:

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Legend

Day: well, this one’s pretty self-explanatory. It starts the day after I delegated to Ecency so that there’s at least 24 hours permitted for rewards to kick in. It is a value used directly in the APY calculation.
Hive Delegated to Ecency: this is how much total Hive Power (HP) I have delegated to Ecency on the provided day. It is a value used indirectly in the APY calculation.
Average Hive Delegation to Date: this is the average of my delegated Hive Power (HP) to Ecency, current to the provided day. This gives an accurate value of how much delegation has been given over time, inclusive of all rewards (from Ecency Boosts and from other sources, including posts and comments). Since this value shows contributes directly to the rewards I get from Ecency, it is the most accurate value to use in calculating APY. Hence, it is a value used directly in the APY calculation.
Hive Reward: this is how much I have earned in rewards in HP from Ecency delegations on the provided day.
Total Hive Reward: this is how much I have in rewards in HP from Ecency delegations in total, up to the provided day. It is a value used directly in the APY calculation.
Hive Earned From Boosts: this is how much I have earned in rewards in HP due to Ecency boosts on the provided day, including the votes that come as a result of following Ecency’s curation trail (this value is approximate). It’s difficult to calculate earnings from promotions, and will not be included in this calculation.
Total Hive Earned From Boosts: this is how much I have earned in rewards in HP due to Ecency boosts in total, up to the provided day, including the votes that come as a result of following Ecency’s curation trail (this value is approximate). It is a value used directly in the APY calculation.
Hive Earned From Posts: this is how much I have earned in rewards in HP from posting and is inclusive of boosts and promotions, on the provided day. While I do reinvest this into Ecency delegations, it is NOT included in my APY calculation, as it is not an earning directly due to the delegation.
Total Hive Earned from Posts: this is how much I have earned in rewards in HP from posting and is inclusive of boosts and promotions, in total, up to the provided day. While I do reinvest this into Ecency delegations, it is NOT included in my APY calculation, as it is not an earning directly due to the delegation.
Other Hive Earned: this is how much I have earned in rewards in HP from other sources (i.e. comments, swing trades, etc.) on the provided day. While I do reinvest this into Ecency delegations, it is NOT included in my APY calculation, as it is not an earning directly due to the delegation. I have also come to realize that this is the most inaccurate and inconsistent column I have – please regard it only as a very, very rough estimate.
Hive Reinvested into Ecency Delegation: this is how much Hive I have reinvested into Ecency delegations on the provided day, and is all-inclusive (since I reinvest earnings from posts, comments, etc.). Its only relevance to the APY calculation is that it brings up my total amount delegated to Ecency. That particular aspect is included in the “Hive Delegated to Ecency” column.
Hive Earned APY To Date: this is the calculated APY based on the “Average Hive Delegation to Date,” “Total Hive reward,” and “Total Hive Earned From Boosts.” This provides a fair calculation of earning which are directly due to Ecency’s rewards (in Hive and boosts), while taking into account the growing delegation and changes in rewards over time. The APY is recorded on a daily basis and will paint a more accurate picture with more time. Some initial values (after the rewards from the initial boosts come in) may be outrageously high due to boosts from preexisting Ecency points (I had >3500, which is equivalent to 23 boosts, or <23 boosts + more promotions); these are accurate values but skewed due to the small time frame. They will become more accurate and reflective of reality over time. There is also a 7 day delay in some earnings, which may further skew the APY. While reinvestments from non-Ecency sources (i.e. posts, comments, trading, etc.) may cause the APY to appear larger, using the “Average Hive Delegation to Date” as a divisor compensates for this effect, thus giving a more accurate APY that’s a result of only Ecency delegation. It is the most fair divisor to use in this calculation because it accounts for changes in delegation over time, is a direct contributor to subsequent delegation rewards, and accounts for reinvested Hive Power only after it has been delegated to Ecency.
Total Ecency Points: this is the total amount of Ecency points that I have available on the provided day. Note that I begin with >3300 points, which is equivalent to 23 boosts, or <23 boosts + more promotions. None of these are used in calculations, but rather as a tally so that conversions can be better understood.
Ecency Points Earned From Delegation: this is the amount of Ecency points that I earned on the provided day. None of these are used in calculations, but rather as a tally so that conversions can be better understood.
Total Ecency Points Earned From Delegation: this is the amount of Ecency points that I earned in total, up to the provided day. None of these are used in calculations, but rather as a tally so that conversions can be better understood.
Daily Ecency Points Earned (All Sources): this is the amount of Ecency points that I earned through other activities (commenting, voting, posting, etc.) on the provided day. None of these are used in calculations, but rather as a tally so that conversions can be better understood.
Ecency Points Spent on Boosts / Promotions: this is the amount of Ecency points that I spent on boosts and promotions on the provided day. None of these are used in calculations, but rather as a tally so that conversions can be better understood. Looking 7 days ahead to the HP earned in boosts will reveal how much the points translate into HP.
HBD Spent to Buy Ecency Points: this is how much HBD I spent to buy Ecency points. At market value, 1000 Ecency Points = 2 HBD.

Graphical Representation

Here are some graphs to help visually represent the progress being made in this experiment. They are adapting data directly from the spreadsheet shown above, using the same legend.

In the first graph, our Y axes consist of: Hive and APY %; these are divided into data sets consisting of Hive Delegated to Ecency (orange), Average Hive Delegation to Date (yellow), and Hive Earned APY to Date (blue, and this is a percentage). The X axis is the Day, so you can follow the daily trend.

In the second graph, our Y axis consists of APY %, represented by Hive Earned APY to Date. The X axis consists of Average Hive Delegation to Date. This one’s a little bit tricky, so I’ll explain it to clear things up: recall that during the first week, I accidentally removed delegation from Ecency. This made the Average Hive Delegation to Date decrease (move to the left on the X axis); subsequently, I increased the delegation, causing it to increase, thus moving to the right on the X axis. Thus, in terms of time, the experiment begins at the bottom, where the Average Delegation to Hive is just about 100% and the APY is ~10%. Following the line to the left, and then subsequently to the right gives the proper timeline.

From this point forward, unless an accidental undelegation occurs, you can continue reading this graph from left to right, as the delegation will be increasing rather than decreasing! Please let me know in the comments whether this is at all unclear and I’ll explain further.

This Week’s Earning Analysis

Last week, I bet on an APY to date of ~65%. So how accurate was my guess? The APY to date as of the end of this week is 66.34%. Slightly better than expected, a hopeful sign. Another interesting week, especially with the price swings Hive’s been experiencing. Now, let’s see what happened over the course of this week:

Day 106 began with a decent reward from a post, albeit without the rewards from Ecency Boosts (which were refunded). I reinvested it all into the Ecency delegation, of course. A slight increase in Hive price would certainly help Ecency get back to business with approving Boosts!

Day 107 I did manage to boost a post with 200 Ecency points! Indeed, back to business.

Day 110 became quite interesting. Not only did I receive one of my largest rewards ever (and reinvested nearly 30 HP into the Ecency delegation), I also converted some it into HBD to purchase Ecency Points. Now, since it was a considerable bulk purchase, I negotiated the price down a bit under market value (market value being 2 HBD = 1000 Ecency Points); I bought 2000 Ecency Points for 3.5 HBD. As long as there is a fair agreement between the two parties, and they’re aware of the market value, of which I made sure to inform them prior to our agreement, then it’s all game.

Day 111 I managed another 200 point Ecency Boost. It’s looking like the following week will become more lucrative in terms of APY.

Day 112 gave some more decent returns and fortunately a slightly better ending APY than expected.

I should note that I figured out the reason that the Hive Boost reward on Day 103 (last week) was lower: I added another user as a major beneficiary because the topic was largely his idea. Thus, this decreased the actual APY! Once again, this is causing an underestimated APY for this experiment. That’s a good sign.

I should also mention that over the past couple of months, Ecency rewards (both Hive and Ecency Points) have consistently come at the exact same time. It’s been a very smooth experience making these calculations since this fix was applied. Thanks for the hard work @ecency.

Now I’ll challenge myself and everyone else reading this to guess the upcoming week’s APY to date. Keep these major factors in mind: 1) I posted 3 times this week and will have all of them successfully Boosted; 2) this will be a transition from week 16 → week 17 (which directly affects the math). Due to these successful Boosts, my guess for the next week’s APY to date will be ~70%, and for the following week I’ll venture a guess based on decreased posting frequency as I’ll be returning to a very heavy work schedule (let’s say ~68%; will give an updated value guess next week!).

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It should be noted that my medicine-themed posts and the Ecency Delegation Experiment posts have @stemsocial as a 5% beneficiary, the Ecency Delegation Experiment Posts will have @leo.voter as a 5% beneficiary (thank you for the freedom of speech!), and all of my posts now have a variable percentage as a beneficiary to @hive-140084 (the FreeCompliments community; these rewards will be used as a reinvestment vehicle and as a reward pool for everyone who posts and comments in the community, except for illegal content, and threads about the community!).

I hope that you’ve found this analysis informative. While it is not financial advice, it may be useful as a methodology of calculating your own returns on various projects on the Hive network.

Here are the prior weeks’ posts for further reference:
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Week 9
Week 10
Week 11
Week 12
Week 13
Week 14
Week 15


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Thanks for your contribution to the STEMsocial community. Feel free to join us on discord to get to know the rest of us!

Please consider delegating to the @stemsocial account (85% of the curation rewards are returned).

Thanks for including @stemsocial as a beneficiary, which gives you stronger support. 
 

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Why are you buying Ecency points though? Do you use all of them?

Right now I am testing which one is the best for rewards in Hive between.

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They all currently generate the around the same amount of Hive daily ^^
But Ecency gives points, which I don't calculate :D

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I was checking hivepakistan have 0.6$ vote and our @cwow2 follows hivepakistan trial with FLAT 0.3$ vote xD

You are doing 25% of contribution to hivepakistan solo i guess. If it was a Frontend error, I am not sure hahaha 🤣😂

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I should follow @hivepakistan's upvote with 75% of what Hivepakistan VP% is, regardless of value :D

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You are our whale 🐋 xD

In terms of trail followers lol

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Yes, I actually use them! You can see on my charts when and how I spend them. Promotions are actually pretty powerful aside from just the Ecency Boosts alone.

I looked into Hivepakistan because of that strong vote. What I see is that the vote comes rather inconsistently so I can't possibly give a reliable APR/APY. That said, if all it takes is a 100 HP delegation, that's a powerful return, even if only intermittent.

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I think Ecency Promotions requires you to some extend to post "Good" content.

Sometimes my content is just ideas and under 500 words which a lot wont upvote xD

Well, Hivepakistan is getting support from Dan, which doesn't get any hive from his delegation, so they are lucky in that regard and that also mean a higher APR for everybody else right.

But Hivepakistan and Ecency is paying out similar Hive rewards daily.

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Yes, quality of content certainly does play an effect. However, I don't think 500 words is necessarily required for a good quality post. If you're able to express something profound in under 500 words, then a BIG kudos to you!

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I know I know. 500 words is not necessarily needed!

I kinda just want to grow, so I don't care that much about my payouts even though it helps me grow and I just want to share ideas and whatever I want :D

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Delegation to ecency rewards with HIVE and Ecency points both, correct me if I am wrong?

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Yes, the rewards come in the form of both Hive and Ecency Points! The Ecency Points can then be used to Boost and/or promote posts (and I've even seen, rarely, comments Boosted).

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